Predict the winner of Upstate New York

[Figueira]

Clinton. There's a common misconception that Upstste is a Republican area. It's not.

[Breton Racer]

Clinton easily.

Clinton-54%
Trump-40%

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

LOL, we were very wrong.

Actual Results:

Trump 1,490,242
Clinton 1,413,176

[Dr. Arch]

LOL, we were very wrong.

Actual Results:

Trump 1,490,242
Clinton 1,413,176

I'll make note of this again, upstate NY votes eerily close to how Wisconsin does. Both populations had similar margins in both 2008 and 2012 as well.

[jaichind]

LOL, we were very wrong.

Actual Results:

Trump 1,490,242
Clinton 1,413,176

I'll make note of this again, upstate NY votes eerily close to how Wisconsin does. Both populations had similar margins in both 2008 and 2012 as well.

I did not know this relationship.  Thanks for sharing.  Although Paul Ryan was on the Romney ticket in 2012 which I had expected the GOP to over-perform in WI even if not win it.   I was certain that Trump would win Upstate NY but also had Clinton winning comfortably in WI.  It seems Trump was an unusually good match for WI or Paul Ryan added nothing or very little to the Romney ticket in 2012 or most likely both. 

[RINO Tom]

LOL, we were very wrong.

Actual Results:

Trump 1,490,242
Clinton 1,413,176

I'll make note of this again, upstate NY votes eerily close to how Wisconsin does. Both populations had similar margins in both 2008 and 2012 as well.

I did not know this relationship.  Thanks for sharing.  Although Paul Ryan was on the Romney ticket in 2012 which I had expected the GOP to over-perform in WI even if not win it.   I was certain that Trump would win Upstate NY but also had Clinton winning comfortably in WI.  It seems Trump was an unusually good match for WI or Paul Ryan added nothing or very little to the Romney ticket in 2012 or most likely both. 

Or that Obama was a much better candidate than any of us were thinking.

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

LOL, we were very wrong.

Actual Results:

Trump 1,490,242
Clinton 1,413,176

I'll make note of this again, upstate NY votes eerily close to how Wisconsin does. Both populations had similar margins in both 2008 and 2012 as well.

I did not know this relationship.  Thanks for sharing.  Although Paul Ryan was on the Romney ticket in 2012 which I had expected the GOP to over-perform in WI even if not win it.   I was certain that Trump would win Upstate NY but also had Clinton winning comfortably in WI.  It seems Trump was an unusually good match for WI or Paul Ryan added nothing or very little to the Romney ticket in 2012 or most likely both. 

Or that Obama was a much better candidate than any of us were thinking.

-Nope; Mitt was a worse candidate than McCain.

[RINO Tom]

LOL, we were very wrong.

Actual Results:

Trump 1,490,242
Clinton 1,413,176

I'll make note of this again, upstate NY votes eerily close to how Wisconsin does. Both populations had similar margins in both 2008 and 2012 as well.

I did not know this relationship.  Thanks for sharing.  Although Paul Ryan was on the Romney ticket in 2012 which I had expected the GOP to over-perform in WI even if not win it.   I was certain that Trump would win Upstate NY but also had Clinton winning comfortably in WI.  It seems Trump was an unusually good match for WI or Paul Ryan added nothing or very little to the Romney ticket in 2012 or most likely both. 

Or that Obama was a much better candidate than any of us were thinking.

-Nope; Mitt was a worse candidate than McCain.

What does that have to do with Barack Obama?

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

LOL, we were very wrong.

Actual Results:

Trump 1,490,242
Clinton 1,413,176

I'll make note of this again, upstate NY votes eerily close to how Wisconsin does. Both populations had similar margins in both 2008 and 2012 as well.

I did not know this relationship.  Thanks for sharing.  Although Paul Ryan was on the Romney ticket in 2012 which I had expected the GOP to over-perform in WI even if not win it.   I was certain that Trump would win Upstate NY but also had Clinton winning comfortably in WI.  It seems Trump was an unusually good match for WI or Paul Ryan added nothing or very little to the Romney ticket in 2012 or most likely both. 

Or that Obama was a much better candidate than any of us were thinking.

-Nope; Mitt was a worse candidate than McCain.

What does that have to do with Barack Obama?

-Barack Obama was not an especially good candidate for the Dems -he didn't even win the White vote (in the midst of a major multi-front crisis); caused a surge of HRC 08 voters to go McCain.

[mgop]

where are all those "smart" democrats from this topic now lol