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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« on: August 27, 2016, 04:23:42 PM »

The LA-AR-MO-IA-MN stack is going completely like the TX-OK-KS-NE-SD-ND one, and within 10 years, Democrats will not have any non-inner city seats in any of those five states and will not be competitive in any statewide elections.

And the signs of that in MN are?
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BRTD
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2016, 05:22:26 PM »

The LA-AR-MO-IA-MN stack is going completely like the TX-OK-KS-NE-SD-ND one, and within 10 years, Democrats will not have any non-inner city seats in any of those five states and will not be competitive in any statewide elections.

And the signs of that in MN are?

The fact that it has gone from the most Democratic state in the nation in 1984 to a swing state with a PVI of D+2 today?

Ah, the old trend line fallacy. By that same logic Virginia would vote identically to New York in 10 years.

...and no Republican has won in 8 years, and that no Republican has won over 50% in in 22 years. So going from that to completely unwinnable for any Democrat in a statewide in only 10 years, when the state's non-white population is rapidly increasing (which didn't happen much from 1984 to about 2000) would be one hell of a steep slope.
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2016, 05:27:27 PM »

The LA-AR-MO-IA-MN stack is going completely like the TX-OK-KS-NE-SD-ND one, and within 10 years, Democrats will not have any non-inner city seats in any of those five states and will not be competitive in any statewide elections.

And the signs of that in MN are?

The fact that it has gone from the most Democratic state in the nation in 1984 to a swing state with a PVI of D+2 today?

But it has a Democratic Governor and two Democratic Senators and has voted Democratic every year since 1984! A similar reason to why West Virginia was easily won by Kerry in 2004, and Obama in 2008 and 2012.

Ignoring the countless reasons as to why this isn't a comparable example his post said Democrats "will not be competitive in any statewide elections." Democrats still have the Governorship and a Senate seat in West Virginia, so the analogy fails even there.
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2016, 01:02:02 AM »

People always talk about Minnesota being a lily-white state but that's kind of dated. We're still whiter than the national average yes, but as of the last Census we were only about 83% non-Hispanic white. Hennepin County went from about 80% non-Hispanic white in the 2000 Census to about 70% in 2010. At that rate it's less than 2/3 non-Hispanic white now. And just 72% of births in Minnesota in 2011 (obviously less now) were from non-Hispanic white mothers.

So regardless of any trends in the past, there's no reason to expect that to continue. Also the premise that even MN-01 and MN-08 will turn into safe R seats in just 10 years is also pretty ludicrous.
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