Opinion of the Clinton welfare reforms?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Obviously terrible, but context is important. The Democratic Party, Congress, and public opinion were all very right wing during this period. Laying it all at the feet of Bill is asinine. I don't know why so many people have trouble grasping the fact that Congress is a thing.

Gotta love how you completely ignored the post right above yours, which utterly demolished such bullsh*t argument.

[Thunderbird is the word]

Utterly vile, immoral and despicable reforms. One of the two main reasons (along with the Crime Bill) why no reasonable person can have a positive opinion of Clinton and call themself left-wing.

[IceSpear]

Obviously terrible, but context is important. The Democratic Party, Congress, and public opinion were all very right wing during this period. Laying it all at the feet of Bill is asinine. I don't know why so many people have trouble grasping the fact that Congress is a thing.

Gotta love how you completely ignored the post right above yours, which utterly demolished such bullsh*t argument.

I'm not sure what you would've preferred he done. Continued vetoing the bills until Congress brought in enough Republicans + Dixiecrats to pass an even worse version through his veto? Then lose re-election for being a welfare loving communist and allowing a Republican trifecta to jam through their entire wishlist?

Or perhaps he should've dissolved Congress, cancelled elections, and forced the right-wing American public to undergo re-education classes. Maybe you can find some common ground with the Trump supporters here!

[SWE]

Clinton fulfilling a campaign promise he made before Republicans took Congress really can't be blamed on Republicans.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Obviously terrible, but context is important. The Democratic Party, Congress, and public opinion were all very right wing during this period. Laying it all at the feet of Bill is asinine. I don't know why so many people have trouble grasping the fact that Congress is a thing.

Gotta love how you completely ignored the post right above yours, which utterly demolished such bullsh*t argument.

I'm not sure what you would've preferred he done. Continued vetoing the bills until Congress brought in enough Republicans + Dixiecrats to pass an even worse version through his veto? Then lose re-election for being a welfare loving communist and allowing a Republican trifecta to jam through their entire wishlist?

If the bill couldn't withstand his veto the first time, I see no reason to assume a worse bill eventually could have.

If I'm the President and a horrible bill comes to my desk, I veto it, period. What does it matter if Congress keeps passing it again and again? Signing a paper every month or so isn't too much work.

[Sumner 1868]

Obviously terrible, but context is important. The Democratic Party, Congress, and public opinion were all very right wing during this period. Laying it all at the feet of Bill is asinine. I don't know why so many people have trouble grasping the fact that Congress is a thing.

Gotta love how you completely ignored the post right above yours, which utterly demolished such bullsh*t argument.

I'm not sure what you would've preferred he done. Continued vetoing the bills until Congress brought in enough Republicans + Dixiecrats to pass an even worse version through his veto? Then lose re-election for being a welfare loving communist and allowing a Republican trifecta to jam through their entire wishlist?

Or perhaps he should've dissolved Congress, cancelled elections, and forced the right-wing American public to undergo re-education classes. Maybe you can find some common ground with the Trump supporters here!

His first two vetoes of the harsher bill didn't boost Dole's polling whatsoever. It's hard to see a final veto killing his campaign.

[IceSpear]

Clinton fulfilling a campaign promise he made before Republicans took Congress really can't be blamed on Republicans.

He promised to reform the welfare system, he didn't promise this bill. During the 2 years Democrats controlled Congress nothing remotely similar to this was passed, and this bill was signed a few months before the 1996 election. Draw your own conclusions.