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« on: August 28, 2016, 01:15:28 AM »

With Trump being the GOP nominee, does anybody think the Republican party is breaking apart into factions? Right now, Trump is running a nationalist, alt-right, populist platform. With that, the fiscal conservative/capitalistic voters end up voting for Gary Johnson. The social conservatives either stay home or vote for the Constitution party candidate Darryll Castle or the American party. Does this enable a 3rd or 4th party to form?
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2016, 02:55:11 AM »

In short, no. There is no practical alternative. Parties SHOULD have big tents with diverse views.

The democratic party from 1932 to 2008 did fine operating as such.

It's very likely a class thing more than anything.

If you polled the democratic electorate, I'd say you'd get stark differences of opinion on things like culture, immigration, trade deals, etc depending on social class.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2016, 07:22:55 AM »

In short, no. There is no practical alternative. Parties SHOULD have big tents with diverse views.

This. The American electoral system tends towards two parties. Breaking off and forming a third party provides no rewards, unlike in a PR or Westminster system. If you need to be part of a party covering ~50% of the population to hold power, you will have to accept some diversity in your tent.
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2016, 08:44:49 AM »

With Trump being the GOP nominee, does anybody think the Republican party is breaking apart into factions? Right now, Trump is running a nationalist, alt-right, populist platform. With that, the fiscal conservative/capitalistic voters end up voting for Gary Johnson. The social conservatives either stay home or vote for the Constitution party candidate Darryll Castle or the American party. Does this enable a 3rd or 4th party to form?

Most social conservatives are just voting for Trump as the least bad option (and I've grown to like him more over the last couple months); it's the libertarian-leaning Republicans who are at risk.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2016, 10:11:04 PM »

A first past the post system (the electoral college is honestly not much of a deviation from that) always tends toward two parties. That being said, who those two parties are can change with time. If the Republican party doesn't solve its problem with non-whites, I can definitely see the libertarian party rising to power or the democratic party splitting in two over the next several decades.
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2016, 11:58:52 PM »

I've never heard of this Grand Old Party Party.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2016, 01:38:38 AM »

I've never heard of this Grand Old Party Party.

You sound like the kind of person who's never used an ATM machine before.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2016, 01:48:32 AM »

I've never heard of this Grand Old Party Party.

You sound like the kind of person who's never used an ATM machine before.

I use it all the time. I'm always paranoid someone will see me entering my PIN number though!
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2016, 11:01:08 AM »

MAYBE
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2016, 02:45:27 PM »

The fight isn't over Moderates vs Conservative Republicans the fight is non-establishment vs establishment.
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