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Arbitrage1980
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« on: August 29, 2016, 01:10:10 PM »

As a lifelong conservative Republican, this would be a dream come true. 

Walker, Rubio, Cruz, Kasich, Jeb, pretty much anyone would be preferable to the con artist and lifelong liberal who is our current nominee.
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Arbitrage1980
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2016, 06:12:39 PM »

Yes. Hillary is an even weaker candidate than I'd imagined. Her unpopularity among whites is deeply alarming. The level of bitterness among some people I've seen since the convention has shaken me to the core. One liberal white lady almost sneered at me as she told me Salazar was the nail in the coffin and she might vote Trump because "Nobody will listen to him." I had to remind her that he'd be the most powerful man in the world. An old , very liberal and well  educated good friend responded to my arguments with a simple "F*** her." Nominating Clinton was a historic mistake. Sanders would, amazingly, be doing better. If by some dint of miracle the country somehow rejected Trump and elects her, it will be just that: rejecting Trump, but absolutely zero mandate for Clinton. She would in that case be best off sticking to completely nonpartisan issues like mental health, aid to small business where she can work with the Republican Congress and keep her head down.

Hillary is not the type to keep her head down. She's got too much going for her to hide like that. And that's why she gets such a bad rap all through the years, because people think she ought to stay in her "place". But she has never done that. She is a trailblazer, and our society is uncomfortable with female trailblazers.

The country is rejecting Trump right and left because his candidacy is a joke and has been from the very beginning. He has nothing going for him in the political arena and it shows.

I agree that if Hillary wins it won't be because people love her and embrace her wholeheartedly, but I hope she surprises the pants off of all those who think she doesn't have what it takes to be one of the best Presidents we've ever had.

Trump needs to stay in his element, which is show business and real estate.

Can you explain to me how she's a "trailblazer" when the only reason she is in this position is because she happened to marry the most gifted politician of our lifetime?  Liberals talk about her as if she's Harriet Tubman, Susan B. Anthony, Rosa Parks, or Sally Ride.
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Arbitrage1980
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2016, 09:08:07 PM »

Yes. Hillary is an even weaker candidate than I'd imagined. Her unpopularity among whites is deeply alarming. The level of bitterness among some people I've seen since the convention has shaken me to the core. One liberal white lady almost sneered at me as she told me Salazar was the nail in the coffin and she might vote Trump because "Nobody will listen to him." I had to remind her that he'd be the most powerful man in the world. An old , very liberal and well  educated good friend responded to my arguments with a simple "F*** her." Nominating Clinton was a historic mistake. Sanders would, amazingly, be doing better. If by some dint of miracle the country somehow rejected Trump and elects her, it will be just that: rejecting Trump, but absolutely zero mandate for Clinton. She would in that case be best off sticking to completely nonpartisan issues like mental health, aid to small business where she can work with the Republican Congress and keep her head down.

Hillary is not the type to keep her head down. She's got too much going for her to hide like that. And that's why she gets such a bad rap all through the years, because people think she ought to stay in her "place". But she has never done that. She is a trailblazer, and our society is uncomfortable with female trailblazers.

The country is rejecting Trump right and left because his candidacy is a joke and has been from the very beginning. He has nothing going for him in the political arena and it shows.

I agree that if Hillary wins it won't be because people love her and embrace her wholeheartedly, but I hope she surprises the pants off of all those who think she doesn't have what it takes to be one of the best Presidents we've ever had.

Trump needs to stay in his element, which is show business and real estate.

Can you explain to me how she's a "trailblazer" when the only reason she is in this position is because she happened to marry the most gifted politician of our lifetime?  Liberals talk about her as if she's Harriet Tubman, Susan B. Anthony, Rosa Parks, or Sally Ride.

Read her history. If you think that she got where she is just because of Bill, then that's your perception and I won't mess with it.



I'm very familiar with the Clintons.  Read a ton of stuff on them and am actually a big fan of Bill's presidency.  Hillary is very smart, hard working, and competent.  Even if she had not married Bill, she would've been extremely successful.  But let's be totally frank; she has virtually zero political talent or charisma but is on the verge of being the first woman president.  She was able to win the 2000 NY Senate race due to her being a sympathetic first lady after the Lewinsky scandal.  She then leveraged that into a 2008 run, which was horribly managed and ended in her defeat.  Then, to placate the Clintonistas and to garner Bill's goodwill for his 2012 re-election, Obama gave her Secretary of State.  She accomplished very little during her tenure there.

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