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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2016, 05:28:56 PM »

Yeah, there's no evidence that she's running out the clock. Why would she have given a nationally televised speech attacking Trump on Thursday if that were the case?

But even when Clinton is winning in a landslide, these losers need to find a reason to concern troll about her campaign.
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2016, 05:29:34 PM »

Why do people still give idiots like Nate Silver attention?
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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2016, 05:32:22 PM »

Why do people still give idiots like Nate Silver attention?

Because he "went platinum" in 2012.
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« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2016, 05:44:46 PM »

Why do people still give idiots like Nate Silver attention?

Because he "went platinum" in 2012.

Pretty much.... made me laugh remembering '08 and '12 and the "inevitability" of the 538 polling model and how they became minor celebrities with the MSM as a result.
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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2016, 07:03:13 PM »

Trump really did a number on him. They've gone from exceedingly confident to exceedingly cowardly.
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Nate Silver arguments often follow this sort of logic:

Some evidence might suggest there could be movement in a particular direction. Now, not all evidence is suggesting this. For example, Evidence A suggests this phenomenon isn't occurring at all. However, Evidence B and C do suggest such a trend, at least to an extent, so it's worth mentioning this pattern as a distinct possibility.

With that said, we shouldn't be too quick to conclude that this movement is actually occurring, as Evidence B and C both fall into Category Q. Category Q has sometimes been unreliable or shown different numbers from other categories. It's important to remember to consider all evidence and categories when analyzing the state of this race, and be aware that the numbers can change. And when the numbers do change, it could signify a larger movement, or it could merely be statistical noise.
Yep. That what probability theory is. There are indication that the race have tightened a bit, but not enough. And all coming from "similar" sources.

Good polls
JUL. 29-31         CNN, (A-, RV)                          C+8
JUL. 29-31         CBS News/New York Times, (A-, RV)      C+5
JUL. 31-AUG. 2   Fox News, (A, RV)                        C+9
JUL. 31-AUG. 3   NBC News/Wall Street Journal (A-, RV)    C+9
JUL. 29-AUG. 4   IBD/TIPP   (A-, RV)                      C+4   
AUG. 1-3      Marist College   (A, RV)                    C+14   
AUG. 1-4      ABC News/Washington Post    (A+, LV)        C+8
AUG. 4-7      Monmouth University   (A+, LV)              C+13
AUG. 5-8      Selzer & Company    (A+, LV)                C+4
AUG. 9-16    Pew Research Center   (B+, RV)               C+4
AUG. 18-24   Quinnipiac University   (A-, LV)             C+7
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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2016, 10:31:42 AM »

Once again Nate is using what he very well knows to be illegitimate reasoning to provide a catchy headline and a narrative. It seems 538 always has to have something to say.

NYT isn't paying him anymore, he needs to generate his own traffic
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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2016, 10:32:38 AM »

Guys, it's 2016. There's no need to still pretend that discredited fraud Nate Silver has any idea what he's talking about.

He knows, the fraud part is pretending that this is more complicated than it is.
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