What are the odds that Maine and Nebraska both split electoral votes this year?
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Question: What are the odds that Clinton wins NE-02 and Trump wins ME-02?
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0-24.9%
 
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25-49.9%
 
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50-74.9%
 
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75-100%
 
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« on: August 29, 2016, 09:21:12 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016, 09:42:34 PM »

Clinton wins NE-02 = probability Likely
Trump wins ME-02 = probability Very Low.

So since your poll says "and" (meaning both events happening) I voted 0-24.9%.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016, 09:46:09 PM »

Clinton will probably win NE-2, so I will say 60% one of the delegations splits.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2016, 09:47:42 PM »

I can't imagine both happening. I doubt Trump can actually win ME-02, but if he does, it probably means that Hillary's numbers have sunk dramatically, and she isn't winning NE-02.
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2016, 09:49:49 PM »

Clinton will probably win NE-2 but I don't see ME-2 going for Trump.
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2016, 09:52:40 PM »

Obama won NE 02 by about 1.2% in 2008, when he won the national popular vote by 7.2%.  Given that Hillary's ground game won't be as strong as Obama's, I don't think she wins it unless she wins nationwide by 8+ points. 
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2016, 09:57:22 PM »

Obama won NE 02 by about 1.2% in 2008, when he won the national popular vote by 7.2%.  Given that Hillary's ground game won't be as strong as Obama's, I don't think she wins it unless she wins nationwide by 8+ points. 

I don't think it's as simple as that. I think the issue with educated suburban whites is the issue.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2016, 09:59:26 PM »

0 because you'd think there'd be some uniformity to the swing, where if ME-02 happens, NE-02 doesn't and vice versa.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2016, 10:20:44 PM »

Clinton wins NE-02 = probability Likely
Trump wins ME-02 = probability Very Low.

So since your poll says "and" (meaning both events happening) I voted 0-24.9%.

I don't think it's "likely" that Hillary carries NE-02, but it's more likely than Trump carrying ME-02.
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2016, 10:21:18 PM »

I think 99% of the people who go on about NE-02 have no idea that it was redistricted in 2011. It was R+6 in 2008 and R+11 in 2012.
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2016, 10:24:20 PM »

I think 99% of the people who go on about NE-02 have no idea that it was redistricted in 2011. It was R+6 in 2008 and R+11 in 2012.
Wait. That sounds more like NE-01. Isn't NE-02 only R+4 on Cook?
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2016, 10:28:54 PM »

I think 99% of the people who go on about NE-02 have no idea that it was redistricted in 2011. It was R+6 in 2008 and R+11 in 2012.
Wait. That sounds more like NE-01. Isn't NE-02 only R+4 on Cook?

I have no idea, and don't care. NE-02 was a full eleven points to the right of the nation in 2012, no matter what some hack thinks.

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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2016, 10:30:21 PM »

No polls so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But I do suspect Clinton might be favored in NE-02 because Trump is a horrible fit for the plains cities.
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2016, 10:50:43 PM »

Zero. I think Hillary will carry NE-2 (After which the Republicans in Nebraska will nuke the district plan) and I think there's about as much chance of the Lions winning the Super Bowl this season of Maine having a vote go for Trump.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2016, 11:11:20 PM »

I think 99% of the people who go on about NE-02 have no idea that it was redistricted in 2011. It was R+6 in 2008 and R+11 in 2012.
Thinking about NE-01?
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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2016, 11:13:24 PM »

I think 99% of the people who go on about NE-02 have no idea that it was redistricted in 2011. It was R+6 in 2008 and R+11 in 2012.
Wait. That sounds more like NE-01. Isn't NE-02 only R+4 on Cook?
I think. Wikipedia says it is R+4.
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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2016, 11:48:26 PM »

I think 99% of the people who go on about NE-02 have no idea that it was redistricted in 2011. It was R+6 in 2008 and R+11 in 2012.
Wait. That sounds more like NE-01. Isn't NE-02 only R+4 on Cook?
I think. Wikipedia says it is R+4.

It does. As does Cook. Ergo about 1% chance.
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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2016, 12:05:13 AM »

I think 99% of the people who go on about NE-02 have no idea that it was redistricted in 2011. It was R+6 in 2008 and R+11 in 2012.
Wait. That sounds more like NE-01. Isn't NE-02 only R+4 on Cook?

I have no idea, and don't care. NE-02 was a full eleven points to the right of the nation in 2012, no matter what some hack thinks.



Again... think about who lives in NE-2 and consider how they voted along with the nation last time. I think you're flinging 'hack' around a little too easily.
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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2016, 01:33:22 AM »

I would say less than 1%, don't see how Clinton can win 53-46 Romney NE-02 while losing 52-44 Obama ME-02. Both would require 8 point swings in the opposite directions.
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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2016, 01:38:14 AM »

I would say less than 1%, don't see how Clinton can win 53-46 Romney NE-02 while losing 52-44 Obama ME-02. Both would require 8 point swings in the opposite directions.

God help me for saying this, but I agree with Seriously? and his reasoning.

I don't see how both possibly happen.
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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2016, 08:46:42 AM »

Both will definitely trend towards the opposite side this year, but at the same time, I can't see both flipping in opposite directions. I'd go 50-50 on one or the other flipping, but both isn't going to happen.
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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2016, 09:02:28 AM »

Clinton wins NE-02 and Trump wins ME-02?  0%

Clinton wins NE-02 or Trump wins ME-02?  30%
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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2016, 09:43:59 AM »

Clinton wins NE-02 and Trump wins ME-02?  0%

Clinton wins NE-02 or Trump wins ME-02?  60%

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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2016, 09:54:14 AM »

I think 99% of the people who go on about NE-02 have no idea that it was redistricted in 2011. It was R+6 in 2008 and R+11 in 2012.
Wait. That sounds more like NE-01. Isn't NE-02 only R+4 on Cook?

The way he's doing it is effectively doubling Cook PVIs.  R+4 to Cook means 54-46 in a 50-50 election, or an eight point win.
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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2016, 11:15:25 AM »

I think 99% of the people who go on about NE-02 have no idea that it was redistricted in 2011. It was R+6 in 2008 and R+11 in 2012.
Wait. That sounds more like NE-01. Isn't NE-02 only R+4 on Cook?

The way he's doing it is effectively doubling Cook PVIs.  R+4 to Cook means 54-46 in a 50-50 election, or an eight point win.
I see. Thanks for the explanation.
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