Politico: Democrats debate the size of a Clinton victory

[Gass3268]

A confident party is divided between those who just want to make sure to win, and those who are pushing for a landslide

[Ljube]

The size of her victory will be -1%.

[MT Treasurer]

So?

[Fusionmunster]

The size of her victory will be -1%.

She'd probably win the electoral college with that popular vote margin.

[Spark]

Should be debating the size of the incoming defeat ...

[Erich Maria Remarque]

So?

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[Fusionmunster]

Should be debating the size of the incoming defeat ...

Has Trump actually led in a national poll outside of Rasmussen and the junk tracking polls?

[Ljube]

Should be debating the size of the incoming defeat ...

[MT Treasurer]

The size of her victory will be -1%.

She'd probably win the electoral college with that popular vote margin.

Not really.

[heatcharger]

The size of her victory will be -1%.

She'd probably win the electoral college with that popular vote margin.

Not really.

I thought you were on the "Trump can lose the PV but still win the EV" bandwagon.

[MT Treasurer]

The size of her victory will be -1%.

She'd probably win the electoral college with that popular vote margin.

Not really.

I thought you were on the "Trump can lose the PV but still win the EV" bandwagon.

Yeah, IMO that's far more likely than Clinton winning in the the EC but losing the PV.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Should be debating the size of the incoming defeat ...

Has Trump actually led in a national poll outside of Rasmussen and the junk tracking polls?

Yes. https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=241637.0

[Fusionmunster]

Should be debating the size of the incoming defeat ...

Has Trump actually led in a national poll outside of Rasmussen and the junk tracking polls?

Yes. https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=241637.0

I meant recently.

[PresidentSamTilden]

Breaking: Jefferson Davis' cabinet debates size of territorial gains following invasion of Pennsylvania.

Not saying Clinton will lose, but groupthink is a real thing...

[DrScholl]

No one wants to believe that Hillary will win, but those who don't believe are going to be sadly mistaken on election night. The alt-right and the white supremacists are going down big time. Praise God.

[Xing]

Should be debating the size of the incoming defeat ...

No, that's what you guys should be doing. But I'm guessing it's psychologically impossible for you to grasp the idea that your candidate might lose.

[Ljube]

Should be debating the size of the incoming defeat ...

No, that's what you guys should be doing. But I'm guessing it's psychologically impossible for you to grasp the idea that your candidate might lose.

He is the better candidate, so I think he will win.

[DrScholl]

Should be debating the size of the incoming defeat ...

No, that's what you guys should be doing. But I'm guessing it's psychologically impossible for you to grasp the idea that your candidate might lose.

He is the better candidate, so I think he will win.

You know what, so does David Duke, so you are sharing an opinion with some rotten company. The alt-right is a trip.

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Should be debating the size of the incoming defeat ...

No, that's what you guys should be doing. But I'm guessing it's psychologically impossible for you to grasp the idea that your candidate might lose.

He is the better candidate, so I think he will win.

[Nyvin]

Should be debating the size of the incoming defeat ...

No, that's what you guys should be doing. But I'm guessing it's psychologically impossible for you to grasp the idea that your candidate might lose.

He is the better candidate, so I think he will win.

[Angel of Death]

To those experiencing déjà vu.

[Erich Maria Remarque]

To those experiencing déjà vu.

LOL

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

No one wants to believe that Hillary will win, but those who don't believe are going to be sadly mistaken on election night. The alt-right and the white supremacists are going down big time. Praise God.

I think that depends on how much voter suppression there is by the Trump and his Trumpsh**ts.

[Coolface Sock #42069]

Go for the landslide, for two reasons.

1. It would send an unequivocal message that the people of Anerica aren't buying what Trump's selling, particularly the ties to white supremacist groups. Republicans would have a tough time blaming a double-digit loss on factors outside their control.

2. It would make the election results look much more legitimate. While the second-worst outcome, a Trump presidency, would be horrifying, there is a possibility that could do more damage: Hillary winning, but in a fashion that leads to widespread belief that the election has been rigged (while losing the popular vote, maybe, or only winning by less than a percentage point). When our very system of electing leaders is no longer trusted, we are in trouble. We know that, no matter what, Trump will call it rigged if he loses. But people will be less likely to believe him if Hillary annihilates him instead of barely beating him.

Also, it would put more Senate seats in play, not less. I don't think John McCain in Arizona is losing unless it's because Trump drags him down, for example.

[Ljube]

Go for the landslide, for two reasons.

1. It would send an unequivocal message that the people of Anerica aren't buying what Trump's selling, particularly the ties to white supremacist groups. Republicans would have a tough time blaming a double-digit loss on factors outside their control.

2. It would make the election results look much more legitimate. While the second-worst outcome, a Trump presidency, would be horrifying, there is a possibility that could do more damage: Hillary winning, but in a fashion that leads to widespread belief that the election has been rigged (while losing the popular vote, maybe, or only winning by less than a percentage point). When our very system of electing leaders is no longer trusted, we are in trouble. We know that, no matter what, Trump will call it rigged if he loses. But people will be less likely to believe him if Hillary annihilates him instead of barely beating him.

Also, it would put more Senate seats in play, not less. I don't think John McCain in Arizona is losing unless it's because Trump drags him down, for example.

Irredeemable renegade.