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« on: September 04, 2016, 10:50:02 AM »

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[quote]The rise of the tea party occurred in tandem with this new spirit of ideological purity within the movement. From the standpoint of the conservative movement’s elites, the two phenomena were one and the same. But the truth is that the freaked-out Republicans in America, watching Fox News in their Barcaloungers, were not animated by newfound appreciation for Rand and Hayek. As careful studies of the tea-party movement revealed, what animated Republican voters was a fear of cultural change. Their anti-statism was confined to programs that seemed to benefit people other than themselves. Racial resentment and ethnocentrism, not passion for limited government, drove the conservative base.

Almost alone within the party, Trump understood this. That is why his comically long list of ideological deviations never hurt him. Trump’s racism demonstrated to most Republican voters that he stood with them on the essential divide that ordered their political world — one defined by identity more than ideology.[/quote]

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/08/trump-proves-republican-obama-hate-was-never-about-ideas.html

All of this should be blatantly obvious, but conservative intellectuals and Republican elites are in serious denial about it. The reality is that Trump is the result of the so-called "Tea Party movement" (i.e. most of the Republican voter base) finally nominating the type of candidate that they had wanted all along.
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2016, 10:52:07 AM »

Racism, not partisanship?
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2016, 11:27:33 AM »

I have been saying for years that conservatism in America is cultural not ideological. Is this news to people?
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2016, 12:13:35 PM »

You see, Trump is a white man and has an R next to his name, so all is forgiven.
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2016, 12:13:54 PM »

Yes, and it is becoming more and more obvious as the trump-racial-bigotry campaign continues.
Disgusting.
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2016, 12:41:58 PM »

There is a small group of people in the country that genuinely support conservatism (small government, low taxes for rich, deregulation, and all the social conservative stuff too), but they make up about ~10-20% of the Republican electorate.  

The vast majority of people who vote Republican do so as a "counter-revolution" method in that they fear the change that is coming to the country and fear losing whatever privileges the old system gave them.

...and when push comes to shove that vast majority really doesn't give a sh!t about conservative principles or ideology....as proven by the nomination of Trump.
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2016, 12:44:05 PM »

This was obvious in the first couple months of the Obama Admin. when we had the tea party protesters.

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2016, 12:45:30 PM »

I've never stopped believing that the obstruction against Obama by the GOP was mostly because of his color.

The fact that he's half white half black doesn't matter. Because of his color he looks black, and that was/is enough to be against him, in their view.

To add insult to injury, not only did Obama jump ahead of them all to become President -- the highest job in the land -- but he's also personally light years ahead of them in personal development. Prejudice and ego have been blinding the GOP from the get go.

(And ignorance.)



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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2016, 12:47:36 PM »

The ones supporting him are absolutely cucks now. I hope they move into the Sasse/Flake way in the party, it might be annoying but at least they are disputing ideas rather some retarded partisanship.
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2016, 12:50:49 PM »

This is blindingly obvious. Republicans believed in climate change, supported Obamacare, etc. until it turned out that Obama agreed with them. Then they decided to be contrarians to everything Obama did in order to tarnish the record of America's first black president.
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2016, 01:07:10 PM »

EVERYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH ME IS RACIST!!!!!!! 
On a serious note though, support for both parties is cultural or identity based more than policy based, unfortunately.
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2016, 01:21:39 PM »

I have been saying for years that conservatism in America is cultural not ideological. Is this news to people?

Yeah, because you're still wrong.
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2016, 01:53:18 PM »

I have been saying for years that conservatism in America is cultural not ideological. Is this news to people?

Yeah, because you're still wrong.

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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2016, 07:15:20 PM »

The fact that he's half white half black doesn't matter. Because of his color he looks black, and that was/is enough to be against him, in their view.

To add insult to injury, not only did Obama jump ahead of them all to become President -- the highest job in the land -- but he's also personally light years ahead of them in personal development. Prejudice and ego have been blinding the GOP from the get go.

(And ignorance.)

True Obama did check "Black" on his census form so he identifies himself as Black and not bi-racial.
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2016, 07:18:11 PM »

This is blindingly obvious. Republicans believed in climate change, supported Obamacare, etc. until it turned out that Obama agreed with them. Then they decided to be contrarians to everything Obama did in order to tarnish the record of America's first black president.
True the Republicans did change their minds on "climate change". About ObamaCare it never had majority support by the electorate. Its support has always been in the low-mid 40's.
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2016, 07:26:08 PM »

This is blindingly obvious. Republicans believed in climate change, supported Obamacare, etc. until it turned out that Obama agreed with them. Then they decided to be contrarians to everything Obama did in order to tarnish the record of America's first black president.
True the Republicans did change their minds on "climate change". About ObamaCare it never had majority support by the electorate. Its support has always been in the low-mid 40's.

Not really. The first poll taken on it had 30% more people favoring it than opposing it. Republicans found it much better than the alternative (universal health care), and in fact, Republicans (such as Romney) were the first to implement similar programs at the state level. They only oppose it now because it was one of Obama's greatest achievements.
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2016, 07:55:20 PM »

This is blindingly obvious. Republicans believed in climate change, supported Obamacare, etc. until it turned out that Obama agreed with them. Then they decided to be contrarians to everything Obama did in order to tarnish the record of America's first black president.
True the Republicans did change their minds on "climate change". About ObamaCare it never had majority support by the electorate. Its support has always been in the low-mid 40's.

Not really. The first poll taken on it had 30% more people favoring it than opposing it. Republicans found it much better than the alternative (universal health care), and in fact, Republicans (such as Romney) were the first to implement similar programs at the state level. They only oppose it now because it was one of Obama's greatest achievements.
I don't remember the first poll but most polls I have seen since the ObamaCare passed has very medicocre support. True Romney passed it at the state level. Your saying Republicans oppose ObamaCare because of Obama himself. Do you you remember "The Louisiana Purchase" and "The Comhusker kickback"? I sure do. Democrats had to do everything to get 60 votes in the US Senate to pass ObamaCare in December 2009. I watched just about everyday on C-Span the US Senate during when the debate about ObamaCare was going on.
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2016, 08:08:49 PM »

Let's just ignore the original racist party...
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2016, 08:11:34 PM »

And why then have most criticisms been about policy? Nope, just the same identity politics garbage that Democrats have been exploting.
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2016, 08:14:08 PM »

Let's just ignore the original racist party...


Lol,


During the 60's the southern base that once made up the core of the democrats transferred into the republicans. Today the republican party has all those racist...Good try.
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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2016, 08:14:48 PM »

Let's just ignore the original racist party...

It would be better if we ignored the current racist party.
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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2016, 08:20:29 PM »

And why then have most criticisms been about policy? Nope, just the same identity politics garbage that Democrats have been exploting.
The point is that Trump is not facing the same criticism for the same policies... read the op
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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2016, 10:19:50 PM »

And why then have most criticisms been about policy? Nope, just the same identity politics garbage that Democrats have been exploting.

As if Republicans don't do that and haven't for the past few decades. PLEASE.
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2016, 10:30:18 PM »

And why then have most criticisms been about policy? Nope, just the same identity politics garbage that Democrats have been exploting.
"It only counts as policy if it's exclusively of interest to white people"
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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2016, 10:32:46 PM »

Let's just ignore the original racist party...


Lol,


During the 60's the southern base that once made up the core of the democrats transferred into the republicans. Today the republican party has all those racist...Good try.
Actually, most of those people are dead. We came up with brand new racists to vote for Trump.
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