American Solidarity Party platform

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http://www.solidarity-party.org/complete-platform

FP. I like that there is an attempt at a party with a consistent 'seamless garment' pro-life ethic.  Some of the economic proposals seem like they perhaps aren't so well thought out though I appreciate the generally distributist goals.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Very eclectic but reasonable mix of positions.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

There's a lot that I like. I don't like that it seems to be still litigating Obergefell, and parts of the 'Civil Rights' section in general are a little too close to boilerplate Pencean 'religious freedom means never having to say you're sorry' sentiments for me. I don't like the initiative/referendum/recall thing. The name of the party is creepy, although I see and respect that it's supposed to be in reference to Solidarność. I love the Consistent Life Ethic stuff at the top, everything from 'Economic Participation' to 'Stewardship of the Environment' inclusive, and everything from 'Public Services' on down with the exception of some general leeriness around the implications of some of the stuff in 'Education'. FP.

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

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Into the trash it goes.

[SWE]

Weird that they stole their name from a pro-rape Trotskyist party.

[Horus]

Creepy.

[VPH]

A little to my right on social issues but overall a solid platform. Would be tempted to vote for them if they were relevant.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Lean FP. Points for originality.

[afleitch]

Unironically use 'Judeo-Christian'.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Unironically use 'Judeo-Christian'.

Ooh, good point. Blech.

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

Unironically use 'Judeo-Christian'.

Ooh, good point. Blech.

I thought this is some sort of American thing, don't you use that often?

Also, I must read their programme but after reading article on Wiki I can say: 10/10, would vote.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Unironically use 'Judeo-Christian'.

Ooh, good point. Blech.

I thought this is some sort of American thing, don't you use that often?

Yes, and it's terrible, reductive, and historically illiterate when we do.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Unironically use 'Judeo-Christian'.

Ooh, good point. Blech.

I thought this is some sort of American thing, don't you use that often?

Also, I must read their programme but after reading article on Wiki I can say: 10/10, would vote.

The phrase was developed in America during the WW2 era (not coincidentally) by those who wanted to emphasize the influence of the Jewish moral tradition on Christianity and on American civic tradition.  Others who see more differences than similarities take offense to the term.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Others who see more differences than similarities take offense to the term.

That's not really why I take exception to it. I take exception to it because it strikes me as a construct onto which specific denominations (or Christianity in general) can deflect responsibility. Its origin as a term had only the best intentions.

[afleitch]

Others who see more differences than similarities take offense to the term.

That's not really why I take exception to it. I take exception to it because it strikes me as a construct onto which specific denominations (or Christianity in general) can deflect responsibility. Its origin as a term had only the best intentions.

I take exception to it because it's a dog whistle.

[Joe Republic]

Left-wing theocracy is still theocracy.  No thanks.

[Kingpoleon]

A little to my right on social issues but overall a solid platform. Would be tempted to vote for them if they were relevant.

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Others who see more differences than similarities take offense to the term.

That's not really why I take exception to it. I take exception to it because it strikes me as a construct onto which specific denominations (or Christianity in general) can deflect responsibility. Its origin as a term had only the best intentions.

If you mean the term has been used to deny responsibility of Christians for any anti-Semitism in the past, I haven't seen it used that way.  The use of the term that I find problematic and has shown up in the past few years is when it's used to suggest that Islam is something inherently foreign and opposite to a shared Jewish-Christian tradition. In any case I don't think it makes sense to use the way a term has been misused as a reason to automatically dismiss the idea that people are trying to get across.

[afleitch]

Others who see more differences than similarities take offense to the term.

That's not really why I take exception to it. I take exception to it because it strikes me as a construct onto which specific denominations (or Christianity in general) can deflect responsibility. Its origin as a term had only the best intentions.

If you mean the term has been used to deny responsibility of Christians for any anti-Semitism in the past, I haven't seen it used that way.  The use of the term that I find problematic and has shown up in the past few years is when it's used to suggest that Islam is something inherently foreign and opposite to a shared Jewish-Christian tradition. In any case I don't think it makes sense to use the way a term has been misused as a reason to automatically dismiss the idea that people are trying to get across.

Except it's clear in this example what message they are trying to get across.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Others who see more differences than similarities take offense to the term.

That's not really why I take exception to it. I take exception to it because it strikes me as a construct onto which specific denominations (or Christianity in general) can deflect responsibility. Its origin as a term had only the best intentions.

If you mean the term has been used to deny responsibility of Christians for any anti-Semitism in the past, I haven't seen it used that way.  The use of the term that I find problematic and has shown up in the past few years is when it's used to suggest that Islam is something inherently foreign and opposite to a shared Jewish-Christian tradition. In any case I don't think it makes sense to use the way a term has been misused as a reason to automatically dismiss the idea that people are trying to get across.

Except it's clear in this example what message they are trying to get across.

I think so, yes. It hasn't anything to do with deflecting responsibility or promoting exclusivity.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Left-wing theocracy is still theocracy.  No thanks.

"Theocracy," lol!

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Left-wing theocracy is still theocracy.  No thanks.

1. Oh, you.
2. Maybe if this general sort of ideology--community-based, change-averse but still fairness-oriented, pragmatic in its theoretical underpinnings, unafraid of being called 'moralistic' as if that's somehow a bad thing--was allowed some sort of constituency in one of the major parties you wouldn't have Chesterbelloc acolytes like these people and creeps like realisticidealist presenting themselves as its representatives. There are at least as many Americans, especially Hispanics and lower-status Asians, who think roughly along these lines as there are SOCIALLY LIBERAL BUT FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE affluent suburbanites.

[Person Man]

Lean FP. Points for originality.

[White Trash]

This is a really interesting find. They might take my vote away from Rocky de la Fuente.

[Clark Kent]

Mostly decent on social issues, but too far left on economics