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« on: September 08, 2016, 09:51:08 PM »

Its base and voters obviously are. I bet that after the election some Republicans in the House will propose some resolution that the US recognize the annexation of Crimea.
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2016, 10:00:37 PM »

It would be awful and newsworthy and should be strongly criticized... but sadly I wouldn't be shocked.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2016, 07:47:17 AM »

Hopefully not
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2016, 08:14:39 AM »

Well, at least they'd finally drop any pretense of patriotism.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2016, 08:23:45 AM »

Will the Democratic party become the party of the neocons? Probably.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2016, 08:37:34 AM »

I do support recognizing Russian sovereignty over Crimea and I have never shied away from my admiration for Putin, but being outright pro-Putin is not something which I think is in America or the GOP's best interests and I don't expect it to happen.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2016, 08:51:53 AM »

It'll ne a conundrum for many. They love Putin and what he does but then you see them want a war when Russia plays military games with jets and ships and what not.

Probably the same percentafe of Dems that love leftist dictators that kill their citizens and make them all poor like Castro, Chavez, his successor who's name I can't remember.
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2016, 11:05:06 AM »

Will the Democratic party become the party of the neocons? Probably.

"The neocons" aren't really a thing now (Project for a New American Century doesn't exist anymore), so no.
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2016, 12:03:20 PM »

No, since the Trumpster will be gone after Nov. 8.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2016, 01:08:40 PM »

Depends on the success of Trump in November and if the "Trump" movement lasts beyond November.
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2016, 02:12:04 PM »

Jonathan Chait has a decent taxonomy of some of the different flavors of patriotism here:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/colin-kaepernick-and-patriotism-in-the-obama-era.html

As he notes, Trump’s version of patriotism “expresses a love of country simply because it is one’s own”, not connecting it to any higher ideals.  Trump doesn't believe in American exceptionalism.  He just thinks Americans should look out for America because it’s our own country, not because it occupies any kind of moral high ground and stands for any exceptional ideals.

That’s Trump’s version, but Trump still seems to stand very much apart from most other leading Republicans on this.  Sure, some, like Pence, back up Trump when he says this stuff, but he’s pretty much just following along because he has to.  He isn’t espousing it on his own initiative.  Most other Republican politicians are still in the Bush/McCain/Romney mode of “American exceptionalism”: America is great in large part because of its values.

Since Trump is going to lose in two months, I don’t see these folks embracing the Trump-ist version of patriotism long term.  They are still going to be in “American exceptionalism” mode, which presumably means that they’ll be mostly anti-Russia, and will accuse Clinton of being soft on Putin.

I mean, I just don’t see any evidence that the whole GOP is going to start being Trump-ist on foreign policy.  Plenty of Republicans try to excuse Trump’s foreign policy comments, but they’re mostly not running on it themselves, as far as I can tell.  Who, other than Trump himself, would you actually say are the leading proponents of Trump-style foreign policy at the moment?
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2016, 02:07:11 AM »

If Trump wins, yes.
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2016, 10:45:48 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2016, 05:27:39 PM »

They can kiss me goodbye if they do.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2016, 06:17:57 PM »

Putin represents a lot of what the GOP base admires, so possibly. Ofc, the neocons will have something to say about that...
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2016, 01:10:24 PM »

No, since the Trumpster will be gone after Nov. 8.
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2016, 09:49:53 PM »

I do support recognizing Russian sovereignty over Crimea and I have never shied away from my admiration for Putin,

Is there any subject on which your views don't literally suck?
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2016, 10:01:10 PM »

     If someone's position on Putin becomes even vaguely relevant, then we'll have much bigger problems than a major party being pro-Putin.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2016, 10:32:00 PM »

     If someone's position on Putin becomes even vaguely relevant, then we'll have much bigger problems than a major party being pro-Putin.

How is that not relevant? Seriously? Huh
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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2016, 08:27:39 PM »

It's going to happen. What Congressman will introduce the bill to recognize the annexation of Crimea?
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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2016, 08:37:10 PM »

Didn't it already turn pro-Putin?
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« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2016, 09:12:09 PM »

Will the Democratic party become the party of the neocons? Probably.

i hope so.

while the most obnoxious of that bunch stuck to trump, the less party-san ones made some of the best cases for clinton i have ever read.
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« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2016, 09:42:55 PM »

Didn't it already turn pro-Putin?

No, and it won't.
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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2016, 10:06:04 PM »
« Edited: November 27, 2016, 10:10:02 PM by TD »


Our new president isn't sure if he wants to defend the Baltic States in the eventuality of Russian attack or thinks NATO is a worthwhile organization, and has high praise for Putin. Plus the whole Russian intelligence agencies working for him....

I'd say the Republican Party - the executive branch at least - is definitely a nice shade of Kremlin red.
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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2016, 10:08:52 PM »


Uh, look at the President elect.
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