HB 2016-1034 - Ukrainian Freedom Act (VOTING)
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« on: September 18, 2016, 03:25:21 PM »
« edited: September 26, 2016, 11:57:45 AM by Speaker NeverAgain »
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Sponsor: Blair

This has passed the Senate and now moves on here.

This is open for a 48-hour period of discussion.
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2016, 10:13:23 PM »
Can Somebody please remind me why we need to get involved in the Ukraine? Not a member of NATO...
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 11:13:18 AM »
Good. We should no longer tolerate bullies on an international scale. I commend Senator Blair for this bill.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 05:47:51 PM »
Quote from: Representative dfwlibertylover on September 18, 2016, 10:13:23 PM
Can Somebody please remind me why we need to get involved in the Ukraine? Not a member of NATO...

Because it's a former Soviet satellite state that was trying to break away from Russian influence (towards the EU) and has had about every dirty trick in the book thrown at them
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 07:02:45 PM »
While I normally support the right to self determination, we simply can not support what is basically an act of war by Russia. I am open to recognizing Crimea as part of Russia, if another referendum is held with a reasonable campaign time frame and conducted by the Crimea government.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2016, 03:31:28 PM »
Quote from: Representative 1184AZ on September 19, 2016, 07:02:45 PM
I am open to recognizing Crimea as part of Russia, if another referendum is held with a reasonable campaign time frame and conducted by the Crimea government.
I think the biggest issue with this, as with doing the same in Kosovo, is that these territories are now dominated by people who would certainly vote to confirm the constitutional change. The Ukrainian citizens that were living in Crimea at the time of the Russian offensive may, and probably would, have made a substantial difference to the outcome of a referendum held at that time - as compared to the result of a referendum held now.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2016, 06:52:57 PM »
Continuing debate for another 48 hours.
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2016, 11:57:23 AM »
As there has been no debate for the past couple days, I'll open this for a final principle 48-hour vote.

Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2016, 11:58:09 AM »
Aye.
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2016, 12:16:05 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2016, 02:43:12 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2016, 03:45:56 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2016, 07:22:30 PM »
Aye!
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2016, 09:56:47 AM »
Nay.
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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2016, 09:58:41 AM »
AYE
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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2016, 07:10:31 PM »
By a vote of 6-1, this passes. Goes to el Senato.
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2016, 05:21:27 PM »
Aye ftr
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2016, 05:44:58 PM »
This should go to the President I believe
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2016, 07:19:27 PM »
Quote from: Senator Blair on October 03, 2016, 05:44:58 PM
This should go to the President I believe
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2016, 07:23:19 PM »

Already on his desk: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=239985.msg5306869#msg5306869
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