Pres. Obama Looking to Shore Up Climate Change Legacy with Two More Agreements

[Frodo]

Obama eyes big finish on climate

By Timothy Cama - 09/10/16 09:52 AM EDT

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[Antonio the Sixth]

Thanks Obama!

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Obama's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of the separation of powers.

[PresidentSamTilden]

Nice to know someone cares about the future of this country.

[Classic Conservative]

Obama's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of he separation of powers.

[Anna Komnene]

Obama's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of the separation of powers.

Obama actually averages the least number of executive orders per year since Grover Cleveland.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

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Obama's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of the separation of powers.

Ah, that was broken well before him. And will continue to be broken, if the current candidates are representations of what America's political future will resemble.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Obama's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of the separation of powers.

Obama actually averages the least number of executive orders per year since Grover Cleveland.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

Executive orders aren't the problem. Bypassing the US system of government altogether and ratifying game-changing treaties and agreements through international law and the UN is the problem.

As is his attempt to unilaterally declare Congress in recess, but that was smacked down by the courts.

[Frodo]

If President Obama is eroding the balance of power between the branches of government, the real culprit is the almost insane obstructionism that we have seen from Republicans in Congress since the beginning of his administration. 

[Figueira]

Obama's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of the separation of powers.

Obama actually averages the least number of executive orders per year since Grover Cleveland.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

Executive orders aren't the problem. Bypassing the US system of government altogether and ratifying game-changing treaties and agreements through international law and the UN is the problem.

As is his attempt to unilaterally declare Congress in recess, but that was smacked down by the courts.

I think people in the future will care more about climate change.

Frodo, I thought you were a climate denier?

[Frodo]

Frodo, I thought you were a climate denier?

My skepticism hasn't changed -that still won't stop me from posting articles about the subject.  

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

If President Obama is eroding the balance of power between the branches of government, the real culprit is the almost insane obstructionism that we have seen from Republicans in Congress since the beginning of his administration. 

Again, not liking the rules of the game doesn't mean you get to throw the Monopoly board on the floor and declare yourself monarch of Atlantic City and everyone is required to pay rent to you by divine right.

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

Gingrich's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of the separation of powers.

FTFY

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Gingrich's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of the separation of powers.

FTFY

The United Nations is not the fourth branch of government.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Obama's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of he separation of powers.

lololololol

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

Gingrich's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of the separation of powers.

FTFY

The United Nations is not the fourth branch of government.

Ummm, you totally missed my point. If it weren't for Gingrich, we wouldn't have the absurd amount of obstructionism in Congress that we do today, and it wouldn't fall onto the President to actually do things.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Gingrich's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of the separation of powers.

FTFY

The United Nations is not the fourth branch of government.

Ummm, you totally missed my point. If it weren't for Gingrich, we wouldn't have the absurd amount of obstructionism in Congress that we do today, and it wouldn't fall onto the President to actually do things.

And you're missing my point, which is that it doesn't matter how obstructed the President's agenda is - he doesn't get to unilaterally rewrite the rules and do things like declare Congress in recess or sublet American law to the United Nations. We're going to be fighting over things like the Iran deal and the Paris accords in the courts for decades, and if the US' involvement in the UN collapses under a Republican admin., Obama's overreach will bear a lot of the blame.

[Slander and/or Libel]

Obama's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of the separation of powers.

Obama actually averages the least number of executive orders per year since Grover Cleveland.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

Executive orders aren't the problem. Bypassing the US system of government altogether and ratifying game-changing treaties and agreements through international law and the UN is the problem.

As is his attempt to unilaterally declare Congress in recess, but that was smacked down by the courts.

Teddy Roosevelt made recess appointments while Congress was out for lunch. This is obviously something that's up for debate, but let's not pretend like there was no precedent for having a different definition of recess.

[Orser67]

Obama's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of the separation of powers.

Obama actually averages the least number of executive orders per year since Grover Cleveland.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

Executive orders aren't the problem. Bypassing the US system of government altogether and ratifying game-changing treaties and agreements through international law and the UN is the problem.

As is his attempt to unilaterally declare Congress in recess, but that was smacked down by the courts.

Teddy Roosevelt made recess appointments while Congress was out for lunch. This is obviously something that's up for debate, but let's not pretend like there was no precedent for having a different definition of recess.

Similarly, executive agreements also have a long precedent. While it's fair to criticize executive agreements as going against what the framers of the Constitution intended, Obama is following precedents set by almost all of his predecessors since at least World War 2.

[Figueira]

If President Obama is eroding the balance of power between the branches of government, the real culprit is the almost insane obstructionism that we have seen from Republicans in Congress since the beginning of his administration. 

Again, not liking the rules of the game doesn't mean you get to throw the Monopoly board on the floor and declare yourself monarch of Atlantic City and everyone is required to pay rent to you by divine right.

This is a country we're talking about, not a finksing Monopoly game.

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

Climate change is an existential threat to our entire race. I don't like the precedent that Obama's approach to executive action sets, but it's better than having Congress block treaties that might well be saving our lives 50 years from now.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Obama's actual legacy will be the complete breakdown of the separation of powers.

Obama actually averages the least number of executive orders per year since Grover Cleveland.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/16/obama-presidential-memoranda-executive-orders/20191805/

[Xing]

Climate change is an existential threat to our entire race. I don't like the precedent that Obama's approach to executive action sets, but it's better than having Congress block treaties that might well be saving our lives 50 years from now.

Totally agree with this. Too much is at stake, and if Congress is going to play politics over a threat like this, then Obama's justified in using executive action.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Climate change is an existential threat to our entire race. I don't like the precedent that Obama's approach to executive action sets, but it's better than having Congress block treaties that might well be saving our lives 50 years from now.

Totally agree with this. Too much is at stake, and if Congress is going to play politics over a threat like this, then Obama's justified in using executive action.

Gonna enjoy quoting things like this when President Trump replaces "climate change" with "illegal immigration".

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Climate change is an existential threat to our entire race. I don't like the precedent that Obama's approach to executive action sets, but it's better than having Congress block treaties that might well be saving our lives 50 years from now.

Totally agree with this. Too much is at stake, and if Congress is going to play politics over a threat like this, then Obama's justified in using executive action.

Gonna enjoy quoting things like this when President Trump replaces "climate change" with "illegal immigration".

This post doesn't make since since A. Trump isn't going to win and B. Climate change is a life or death issue while illegal immigration isn't a major problem.

Man, if you're that confident, you're watching a different election than me. I'm voting Johnson, but this election is not going well for Clinton.

And who's going to make that determination of what a life-or-death issue where the separation of powers no longer matters is? The President.