FL/OH- CNN: Trump +3 and +5

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Did they poll in Spanish?

And you called me a troll

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Disgusting to see what the American people (and media) are capable of doing to a good woman whose minimal, minimal wrongs pale in comparison to those of Donald Trump.

Yes, Stein at 1% and 2% in Florida and Ohio, respectively, is unfair

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Did they poll in Spanish?

And you called me a troll

You are. You have made this forum a worse place. Im shocked the moderators haven't taken action against you.

Get back into basket, deplorable!
Your last 10 posts here is about that you put me on ignore. Meanwhile we're got polls that might indikate that the race has changed for real


BTW, NH is next

Is it not beatutiful?
Now-cast 538:

[Erich Maria Remarque]

besides from the fitness question a trump-biden election would have been an apocalyptic gaffe-armageddon, with two characters who are, in some ways, quite similar.

Haha, you have a point there. It's funny how everyone thinks Biden is a magic bullet now...he's certainly made his fair share of campaign mistakes.

Yeah, with the minor things the media has been able to tag Hillary with; it isn't really hard to imagine them bringing Biden/Sanders/any D down to Trump's level with the right reporting.

Stop to give a magical power to media. You're being mediaphobic! No-no!

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Even on the CNN map, Clinton is at 273 with Virginia, Michigan, Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico. So Trump could win here and Ohio and still easily lose.

Yes, because there are not many fresh polls over there
Just wait

[Erich Maria Remarque]

It seems like they were little too R friendly in this polls.

A little? Add 7% to Clinton and you'll get the reality!

[Erich Maria Remarque]

It's pretty astonishing that Trump is getting almost all Republicans now.  Did #NeverTrump just fizzle overnight, or something?

Go to black ghetto, tell them that at least 50% of them are deplorables lazy or criminal niggaz. Then outline briefly their reaction for us

[Erich Maria Remarque]

It's pretty astonishing that Trump is getting almost all Republicans now.  Did #NeverTrump just fizzle overnight, or something?

#NeverTrump Republicans might exist on Atlas, but there's not that many of them in real life.

Anyway, the race has obviously tightened by a lot and it is competitive now, but Trump can't take states like FL and NC for granted. He also still needs one of WI/PA/MI/CO/NM/NH to win the election. We'll get a much clearer picture of where the race stands after the first debate. No need to overreact.

Fixed for you

[Erich Maria Remarque]

I'm sad that it has come to this, but...

If Clinton wants what's best for her party, and the entire country, she should drop out (cite some health reasons or whatever) and let someone else be the candidate.

The problem is that, as President Obama said, Hillary will say anything to get elected. I.e. she'll not drop out, even she really has a health problem

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-obama-clinton-2008-ad-224189

[Erich Maria Remarque]

I read that cnn forgot to poll anyone under 50. Is this true?

Probably not, but if it was it would be funny.

Edit: Wait WTF?

Lol, Dems, please, stop it.

It is worse than unskewing

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Apparently they couldn't get a "representative sample" so they just multiplied out whoever they did get.

I don't know what you mean by "just multiplied out", but polls sometimes/often doesn't  report numbers with huge MOE, because some uneducated will complain: "why do Trump get 20% among blacks??!!" etc...

[Erich Maria Remarque]

I read that cnn forgot to poll anyone under 50. Is this true?

Probably not, but if it was it would be funny.

Edit: Wait WTF?

Lol, Dems, please, stop it.

It is worse than unskewing

Except it's not 'unskewing' when there is proof, unlike republicans who 'unskew' by making up an electorate that actually isn't what the real electorate is like.

Lol, you really think CNN made something up? Troll!

[Erich Maria Remarque]

They're also missing voters in Cleveland lol

No that means that the margin of error is too high to show results.

Exactly, lol

[Erich Maria Remarque]

They're also missing voters in Cleveland lol

No that means that the margin of error is too high to show results.

Is it the same for voters under 50?

They want a horse race so badly, that they made up fake poll!

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Lol@the people saying those polls are rigged.

New low

[Erich Maria Remarque]

With a margin of error more than double those 46+. In fact they polled more people over 65 than under 45. There are no results for those 18-34 or 35-49. An in Florida, there are low numbers for Tampa Bay and rural Florida that cause them to often have a sample size too small to show. Obviously with such small sample sizes, even if it is reweighted, the results are bound to be misleading and will likely be at least a little bit off. So, this poll is junk. I'm not saying it's rigged, that should be obvious to those who can read, but the subsamples have messed up the poll.

[Erich Maria Remarque]

In a lot of ways, we're an older country now. We are the richest and most powerful, we're the establishment country, lol. We have been for the lifetimes of the vast majority of living americans. Such conditions aren't exactly the recipe for radical exceptionalism, are they?

Your establishment is richest and most powerful; it is true. But what about regular people (without top 0.1% richest)?

Old Europe, especially Scandinavia + ~German countries, is much richer, safer, healthier, happier, more educated and you name it.

That's why we at most have 15-20% (with some exceptions) Trump'ish parties that have worked hard under many-many years to get there, despite terrible immigrations politics. And you've got Trump, coming from nowhere, who has descent chances to become the most powerful man in the world

We are actually to rich to risk. But you... What the hell do you have to lose?

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Voters don't forget and it's time to start throwing out the red meat in terms of actual support for policy changes and not just beating up on the dude with higher unfavorables....

It is probably not true anymore among RV, and very likely not among LV

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Wow, there's definitely somthing going on right now ... in favour of Trump.

All the polls conducted after "basket of deplorables" and her collapse on 9/11 seem to have Trump ahead or tied.

All the other pro-Hillary polls were conducted (long) before that, but were only posted now.

For once Tender is right. She exacerbated her problems further by turning around and apologizing for her basket comment.

Dems need to take a lesson from the GOP brand of politics. Never apologize.

It helps if you don't nominate a race-baiting nutter too, but still, never apologize. -

You are not that bright. She didn't apologize

[Erich Maria Remarque]

https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2008/pollsa.php

8 years ago the polls in Florida and Ohio were pretty similar, just FYI.

Of course. It's still too early to conclude anything.

While it is true, it was not fair to compare with McCain having post convention bump.