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« on: June 28, 2005, 08:41:06 PM »

For the country as a whole he has 43% approve, 52% disapprove.

They didn't do DC, but the extremes are:

63-34 in Utah (1 of 2 states to vote Taft in 1912)
32-65 in Vermont (1 of 2 states to vote Taft in 1912)

http://surveyusa.com/Bush50StateApproval0605.htm
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2005, 08:43:36 PM »

You're getting slow: DailyKOS posted this story over 20 minutes ago.

And where's the new thread on the "fake applause"?  That one's been up for almost 15 minutes.
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2005, 08:44:54 PM »

37    Ohio    Bush    40%    57%
41    Nevada    Bush    38%    57%

Those ones are kind of weird, to say the least.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2005, 08:51:12 PM »
« Edited: June 28, 2005, 08:55:40 PM by jfern »

No data for DC. Here's a map.

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2005, 08:51:19 PM »

37    Ohio    Bush    40%    57%
41    Nevada    Bush    38%    57%

Those ones are kind of weird, to say the least.

1 in 20 and all that.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2005, 08:53:29 PM »

37    Ohio    Bush    40%    57%
41    Nevada    Bush    38%    57%

Those ones are kind of weird, to say the least.

1 in 20 and all that.

Yeah, there's that 1 in 20 chance that it's only 43% disapprove, 54% approve in Ohio.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2005, 08:57:18 PM »

I think we need to have that election again. Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2005, 09:01:04 PM »

These are adults. Among likely voters, Fox and ABC have 48%.
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2005, 09:07:25 PM »

These are adults. Among likely voters, Fox and ABC have 48%.

That's some cherry picking.  Quinnipiac has a 44% approval rating amoung registered voters.
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2005, 09:08:21 PM »

I think we need to have that election again. Tongue

Knowing what we know now, I wish we could have the 1976 election again. I did vote for Carter.

Asked today, I would probably give Bush a low ranking. Not on the war, but on his spending habits at home. I'd rather have an economic conservative than a social one. I may become a Libertarian. Must....not....venture....into....the....land....of....irrelevency.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2005, 09:09:46 PM »

http://pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

I said likely voters.

The only other one I see is Zogby, and he does it differently. It's Excellent/Good 44%, Fair/Poor 56%.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2005, 09:11:24 PM »

I think we need to have that election again. Tongue

Knowing what we know now, I wish we could have the 1976 election again. I did vote for Carter.

Asked today, I would probably give Bush a low ranking. Not on the war, but on his spending habits at home. I'd rather have an economic conservative than a social one. I may become a Libertarian. Must....not....venture....into....the....land....of....irrelevency.

What qualifies as spending at home? A good portion of that is homeland security.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2005, 09:14:47 PM »

http://pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

I said likely voters.

The only other one I see is Zogby, and he does it differently. It's Excellent/Good 44%, Fair/Poor 56%.

Nice of you to not mention the 51% disapproval rating in the ABC poll. How good are methods of determining likely voters with no election soon?
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2005, 09:16:18 PM »

What's your point? I said 48% approval. If anything, that would have implied 52% disapproval.

In the last budget year of the Clinton administration (2001), discretionary spending unrelated to defense or homeland security soared by 15 percent. With the adoption of President Bush's first budget (2002), that growth rate was reduced to six percent; then five percent the following year; and four percent in 2004.
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2005, 09:23:26 PM »

What's your point? I said 48% approval. If anything, that would have implied 52% disapproval.

In the last budget year of the Clinton administration (2001), discretionary spending unrelated to defense or homeland security soared by 15 percent. With the adoption of President Bush's first budget (2002), that growth rate was reduced to six percent; then five percent the following year; and four percent in 2004.

Discretionary spending in billions:

2000: 614.8
2001: 649.3
2002: 734.3
2003: 825.4
2004: 895.0

http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=1821&sequence=0

That's an increase of 45.6% in just 4 years.
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2005, 09:25:31 PM »

Hooked on Phonics, jfern?

Discretionary spending unrelated to defense or homeland security
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2005, 09:29:24 PM »

Hooked on Phonics, jfern?

Discretionary spending unrelated to defense or homeland security

Cherry picking. We didn't have a catagory of "Homeland Security" in 2000.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2005, 09:34:56 PM »

It used to fall under defense, and probably still should.

That's not cherrypicking. That's fundamental.
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2005, 09:49:12 PM »

I got to say I honestly think these polls are wrong.  Bush cannot be at 40 percent approval in Ohio. lower 40's maybe, mid 40's probably, but not 40. 
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2005, 09:51:03 PM »

It used to fall under defense, and probably still should.

That's not cherrypicking. That's fundamental.

Disecretionary spending is up 45% under Bush
Medicare/ Medicaid are way up thanks to health care spiraling out of control, when most 1st world countries have a much better and cheaper single payer health care
Social Security is actually the most fiscally sound part of the whole federal government
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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2005, 09:52:35 PM »

I got to say I honestly think these polls are wrong.  Bush cannot be at 40 percent approval in Ohio. lower 40's maybe, mid 40's probably, but not 40. 

It's still much better than Gov. Taft's ratings.
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2005, 09:59:10 PM »

It used to fall under defense, and probably still should.

That's not cherrypicking. That's fundamental.

Disecretionary spending is up 45% under Bush
Medicare/ Medicaid are way up thanks to health care spiraling out of control, when most 1st world countries have a much better and cheaper single payer health care
Social Security is actually the most fiscally sound part of the whole federal government

Yes, and the growth of non-defense, non- homeland security discretionary spending has declined.

Canadian health care sucks; not that this has anything to do with anything. Certainly not anything to do with Bush.

Social Security is sound, yes, in the sense that everyone from my generation gets an automatic 30% benefit cut, but it'll pay the rest.
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2005, 10:00:11 PM »

Haha, great thread jfern.  One wonders if the dunderheads will go back to being duped by 2006 and 2008!
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2005, 10:02:06 PM »

It's 48% job approval among likely voters, at a time of Social Security doubts, Iraq violence, and high gas prices. And in two years, at least two of those will probably be over. Certainly in four.
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2005, 10:04:08 PM »

It's 48% job approval among likely voters, at a time of Social Security doubts, Iraq violence, and high gas prices. And in two years, at least two of those will probably be over. Certainly in four.

Well, there you go!  As I suspected, dunderheads returning to being duped is extremely likely.

Never good to get excited about anything that appears to rely upon the intelligence of the American public. Smiley
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