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« on: September 16, 2016, 02:09:47 PM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/776860010005557248
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2016, 02:11:56 PM »

Hold on. I might have some tears to shed... Nah can't find them.
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2016, 02:13:21 PM »

Assholes.  (Looks like the Wulfric strategy failed.)

And if you're a Clinton supporter who wants Johnson to bleed Trump votes, this isn't particularly great news.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2016, 02:13:26 PM »

They may get into the second, third, and Weld and Baraka could get in the vice presidential debate if things change.
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2016, 02:14:16 PM »

They may get into the second, third, and Weld and Baraka could get in the vice presidential debate if things change.
No the invites were for the first presidential and vice presidential.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2016, 02:14:36 PM »

I'm a little disappointed. But now there will be no distractions from how awful Trump is compared to Hillary, so there's that. And third partiers have always hurt Hillary more than Trump, too.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2016, 02:15:11 PM »

Assholes.  (Looks like the Wulfric strategy failed.)

And if you're a Clinton supporter who wants Johnson to bleed Trump votes, this isn't particularly great news.

This is assuming Johnson would actually benefit from the debates. He is pretty awful
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2016, 02:15:54 PM »

Not surprising at all.
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2016, 02:15:57 PM »

I'm a little disappointed. But now there will be no distractions from how awful Trump is compared to Hillary, so there's that. And third partiers have always hurt Hillary more than Trump, too.

Stein hurts Clinton, but the polls that break down their support separately seem to suggest that Johnson draws evenly from Clinton and Trump.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2016, 02:16:06 PM »

Congrats President Hillary Clinton
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2016, 02:18:25 PM »
« Edited: September 16, 2016, 02:24:32 PM by Siren »

I don't care about Gary, but this is a travesty to democracy.  A candidate with support from millions of people won't be at the debates because of a weird cabal of unelected journalists and bureaucrats that think they can decide who a valid candidate is for the American people.  Let the people decide, not the media.
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2016, 02:22:21 PM »

Dumb and dumber are out.

Big win for Clinton, yuge loss for Trump.  Trump would have excelled in a 3 or 4-candidate format, like he always has.  Now Clinton can spend all her energy debunking and trapping Trump, not deflecting attacks from three sides.
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2016, 02:22:52 PM »

So how much support do you guys think Johnson will bleed? I'm gonna say he falls to like 5% in the polls.
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2016, 02:22:56 PM »

Where's the world's smallest violin when you need it?
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2016, 02:24:32 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2016, 02:25:14 PM »
« Edited: September 16, 2016, 02:27:34 PM by Eraserhead »

Everyone knew this would be the case, didn't they? Johnson wasn't even close to getting the numbers he needed let alone Stein.

Still a shame imo.
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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2016, 02:25:34 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2016, 02:25:53 PM »

What a shocker.
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2016, 02:26:09 PM »

Full Release: http://debates.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=65&cntnt01origid=27&cntnt01detailtemplate=newspage&cntnt01returnid=80

They used LV where available.
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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2016, 02:27:02 PM »

Gary won't fall too hard in the polls, but he will only get like 3% of the vote.
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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2016, 02:27:14 PM »

Not surprising, tbh. Probably helps Hillary a little bit, since more people will probably feel as if there are really only two choices.
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2016, 02:27:28 PM »

So how much support do you guys think Johnson will bleed? I'm gonna say he falls to like 5% in the polls.

Not sure. He is apparently going to air counter-programming on facebook live during the debates in which he'll be standing outside the debate site answering the questions as they are given to the major candidates.
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2016, 02:36:06 PM »

Just going to leave this here: http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/741886?section=Newsfront&keywords=Dick-Morris-Gary-Johnson-Libertarian&year=2016&month=08&date=03&id=741886&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Main&oref=www.lp.org
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2016, 02:41:08 PM »

I don't care about Gary, but this is a travesty to democracy.  A candidate with support from millions of people won't be at the debates because of a weird cabal of unelected journalists and bureaucrats that think they can decide who a valid candidate is for the American people.  Let the people decide, not the media.

In a way "the people" did decide.
A candidate needed to breach the 15% requirement of support from "the people" based on an average of polls, and not by "journalists and bureaucrats."
Johnson and Stein did not reach it, so they are out.
Pure and simple.
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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2016, 02:41:50 PM »

 "There are more polls and more debates, and we plan to be on the debate stage in October.” -Gary Johnson
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