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« on: September 16, 2016, 02:41:30 PM »

Both states have voted closely together for the last few elections, so why shouldn't they this year? I would think Minnesota would be in play or lean Trump if he is actually leading by 8 there.
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2016, 02:44:08 PM »

Minnesota is less elastic than Iowa. It's definitely not in play, and let's not rule out the possibility that polls could be overestimating Trump in Iowa.
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2016, 02:45:02 PM »

Minnesota turning red would be ExtremeRepublican's wet dream, but Minnesota isn't as nearly as white as Iowa. Minneapolis and the upper Northeast are enough to keep the state Democratic barring a major wave.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2016, 02:45:32 PM »

Iowa and Minnesota are completely different. Iowa is a classic swing state, while Minnesota tends to lean liberal.
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2016, 02:48:31 PM »

Both states have voted closely together for the last few elections, so why shouldn't they this year?

Uh.. sure, the last 2.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2016, 02:51:34 PM »

Both states have voted closely together for the last few elections, so why shouldn't they this year?

Uh.. sure, the last 2.
Minnesota only voted to the left of Iowa by 2 points in 2012.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2016, 12:10:16 AM »

Minnesconsin is nothing like Iowa. They're much nicer up there.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2016, 12:23:16 AM »

Minneapolis suburbs are a big problem for Trump, Iowa has nothing like it. I could see Trump carrying MN-8 though.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2016, 05:41:24 AM »

Both states have voted closely together for the last few elections, so why shouldn't they this year? I would think Minnesota would be in play or lean Trump if he is actually leading by 8 there.

if Jill Stein gets 5%+(like Nader did) TRUMP has a little chance in Minnesota
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2016, 05:54:09 AM »

Minnesota has literally not been polled since April. Don't be shocked if it is tie/narrowly Clinton.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2016, 09:43:58 AM »

I've already written off Iowa. But, by the same token, I don't think Trump has a chance in Minnesota. This is the state that voted for Mondale.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2016, 09:53:11 AM »

Trump probably isn't up by 8 in Minnesota. It doesn't seem like a state where Trump should play all that well.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2016, 10:46:08 AM »

Minnesota is not like Iowa. Iowa doesn't have the huge number of Scandinavians in its rural areas, a major metropolitan area like the Twin Cities, or anything resembling the Iron Range. These are two very different states that happened to vote closely in 2012, but note that Joni Ernst won her Senate race in a landslide in 2014 while Al Franken walked to reelection.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2016, 10:49:27 AM »

Minnesota is not like Iowa. Iowa doesn't have the huge number of Scandinavians in its rural areas, a major metropolitan area like the Twin Cities, or anything resembling the Iron Range. These are two very different states that happened to vote closely in 2012, but note that Joni Ernst won her Senate race in a landslide in 2014 while Al Franken walked to reelection.
I can see Trump make inroads in the Iron Range, and keep in mind that the rural areas have generally been trending Republican. But unfortunately, Trump is toxic in the MSP suburbs, so that cancels out any gains he'd make.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2016, 11:24:32 AM »

Minnesota has literally not been polled since April. Don't be shocked if it is tie/narrowly Clinton.

False. https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016/polls.php?fips=27
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2016, 11:58:51 AM »

I would say likely Clinton, until I see a poll saying otherwise.
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2016, 01:42:44 AM »

Minnesota has literally not been polled since April. Don't be shocked if it is tie/narrowly Clinton.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=246016.msg5270049#new
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2016, 03:42:44 AM »

I would say likely Clinton, until I see a poll saying otherwise.
Probably, but they have had pretty strong D house effect lately.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2016, 01:53:14 PM »

Two online 50-states polls, last one coming from C- Survey Monkey ( asshole TN Volnunteer marked it as WaPo Angry)

Yeah, Minnesota has literally not been polled since April. Don't be shocked if it is tie/narrowly Clinton.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=246016.0
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2016, 02:24:36 PM »

Minnesota turning red would be ExtremeRepublican's wet dream, but Minnesota isn't as nearly as white as Iowa. Minneapolis and the upper Northeast are enough to keep the state Democratic barring a major wave.

This. Obama got 80% of the vote in Minneapolis, 75% in St Paul. There are no areas like that in Iowa.
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