Trump: Clinton's bodyguards should be disarmed; let's see what happens to her

[Wells]

The ss should visit this bastard and arrest him. Trump is scum.

Arrest him for the high crime and misdemeanor of being mean to Queen Hillary?

It seems that both Trump and Clinton have a YUUUUUUGE cult of personality on the internet.

It's clear that Trump was implying that "if Clinton is so anti-gun, why does she have so many armed bodyguards?"

That's what he's implying, but she's not that anti-gun.

And he is not a racist; his supporters are not deplorables. So f**king what?

The first point is not a given, and as for the second: of course not all Trump supporters, or even most of them, are deplorable.  But a bunch of them demonstrably are.  For example, the ones who punched out a 69-year-old lady protesting at one of his rallies.  Or the ones who pepper-sprayed a 15-year-old protester at another rally.  And then there are the ones who yell out "hang her" at Trump rallies.  We don't even need to go into details about David Duke and the other white supremacists who support Trump, do we?

There used to be something called civility and respect for political differences in this country.  And no, the Democrats are not completely innocent in this respect; but the Trump supporters are far, FAR worse.  Nor would I ever say that most Republicans are guilty of this behavior.  You didn't see this kind of thing at rallies for Romney, McCain, or any other candidate I can remember (and that's going back over 50 years).  I'd be willing to offer long odds that you wouldn't see it at Rubio or Kasich rallies if they had won the nomination.  Nor, I suspect, would they have tolerated it, let alone encouraged it as Trump does.

Trump is the problem.  He's a horrible person and encourages horrible behavior in others.  God knows I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton, but her negatives pale in comparison to Trump's, and at least she'll probably be a reasonably effective President if she wins.  If Trump wins, I truly fear for the future of this country, and that's not hyperbole; he's spectacularly, dangerously unfit to be President.  I've batted about .500 in Presidential elections, but I've always had the feeling that if my candidate lost, the country would still be OK.  Not this time.

This is what I've been saying for a while. I do think that extreme rhetoric on both sides was where we were headed eventually, but Trump has sped up the process immensely. It's very clear that the key to success in modern Republican primaries is harsh cultural and racial rhetoric, which is very disappointing. If Republicans had any sense, they would have buried Trump's candidacy alive and try again in 2020, but they care more about winning elections than the country. (If only Kasich and Collins could rebuild the Republican Party.) Trump is having a dangerous impact on this country without even winning, too. Future candidates will try to recreate his success for who knows how many more elections, the Alt-Right has grown their following and may even be able to vote in the next election, and there have been actual hate crimes inspired by his movement. Trump's candidacy is a malicious tumor on america, and the one treatment has a 55% disapproval rating.

Basically, either way, on November 9 we'll know whether America is going to survive or not.

[Hermit For Peace]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

She does say this:

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/16/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-guns-secret-service/index.html


What in God's name is wrong with focusing on keeping guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them? Criminals, terrorists, mentally ill people?

If you aren't any of those then what is to worry about? Jesus Christ!

Trump is a dangerous stupid man.

[Virginiá]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

[MK]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?       

[Virginiá]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?        

Case in point.

I didn't even have to propose a gun control measure that time before the 2nd amendment repeal stuff started flying

[Dr. Arch]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?       

Case in point.

It's so convenient when you have evidence that is not only immediately accessible, but comes to you too.

They used the same tired lines with Obama and their guns have gone nowhere in the last 8 years.

[MK]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?       

Case in point.

There isn't one.  

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?        

"clearly obvious the plan here"? That's called a conspiracy theory. I might as well say, "If he wants to deport all Hispanics why should he have them working on his campaign? Oh of course he wants a 'border wall', but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist dictatorship of North Korea and its border wall. Its damn near impossible for Southern-sympathizing folk to survive." I'd be insane for doing so, but it would make just as much sense as this.

[MK]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?       

Case in point.

It's so convenient when you have evidence that is not only immediately accessible, but comes to you too.

They used the same tired lines with Obama and their guns have gone nowhere in the last 8 years.

Give me a break.  Obama attempted multiple times and thinks to states rights and largely Republican House along with governorships has been unable to ram thru much of it.

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2015/02/15/atf-proposes-new-rules-on-green-tip-ammunition-ban/

http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx

[Dr. Arch]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?       

Case in point.

It's so convenient when you have evidence that is not only immediately accessible, but comes to you too.

They used the same tired lines with Obama and their guns have gone nowhere in the last 8 years.

Give me a break.  Obama attempted multiple times and thinks to states rights and largely Republican House along with governorships has been unable to ram thru much of it.

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2015/02/15/atf-proposes-new-rules-on-green-tip-ammunition-ban/

http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx

God forbid that there are background checks for gun owners. I'm missing the part where he proposed to take away everyone's guns and abolish the 2nd.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?       

Good question - why do you trust TrumpMillerBarron?

[Virginiá]

God forbid that there are background checks for gun owners. I'm missing the part where he proposed to take away everyone's guns and abolish the 2nd.

MK is a living stereotype. He is exactly the kind of person I was referring to earlier. It doesn't matter what you say, or show him, or prove, or whatever. It will never make a difference. He has made up his mind already and basically nothing is going to change that.

[MK]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?       

Case in point.

It's so convenient when you have evidence that is not only immediately accessible, but comes to you too.

They used the same tired lines with Obama and their guns have gone nowhere in the last 8 years.

Give me a break.  Obama attempted multiple times and thinks to states rights and largely Republican House along with governorships has been unable to ram thru much of it.

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2015/02/15/atf-proposes-new-rules-on-green-tip-ammunition-ban/

http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx

God forbid that there are background checks for gun owners. I'm missing the part where he proposed to take away everyone's guns and abolish the 2nd.

Anyone with half a brain would know that you don't just make a sweeping proposal of " We are coming to take the guns".  

Obama/ Hillary and the left will implement it in stages mostly centered around "common sense gun control" policy.    

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?       

Case in point.

It's so convenient when you have evidence that is not only immediately accessible, but comes to you too.

They used the same tired lines with Obama and their guns have gone nowhere in the last 8 years.

Give me a break.  Obama attempted multiple times and thinks to states rights and largely Republican House along with governorships has been unable to ram thru much of it.

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2015/02/15/atf-proposes-new-rules-on-green-tip-ammunition-ban/

http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx

God forbid that there are background checks for gun owners. I'm missing the part where he proposed to take away everyone's guns and abolish the 2nd.

Anyone with half a brain would know that you don't just make a sweeping proposal of " We are coming to take the guns".  

Obama/ Hillary and the left will implement it in stages mostly centered around "common sense gun control" policy.    

and this, folks, is what we call a "conspiracy theory".

[Dr. Arch]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?        

Case in point.

It's so convenient when you have evidence that is not only immediately accessible, but comes to you too.

They used the same tired lines with Obama and their guns have gone nowhere in the last 8 years.

Give me a break.  Obama attempted multiple times and thinks to states rights and largely Republican House along with governorships has been unable to ram thru much of it.

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2015/02/15/atf-proposes-new-rules-on-green-tip-ammunition-ban/

http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx

God forbid that there are background checks for gun owners. I'm missing the part where he proposed to take away everyone's guns and abolish the 2nd.

Anyone with half a brain would know that you don't just make a sweeping proposal of " We are coming to take the guns".  

Obama/ Hillary and the left will implement it in stages mostly centered around "common sense gun control" policy.    

Apparently, you don't even appear to have the ability to form your own opinions based on observable evidence, yet you have the guts to attempt to condescend towards me. Please.

[Hermit For Peace]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?       

Case in point.

It's so convenient when you have evidence that is not only immediately accessible, but comes to you too.

They used the same tired lines with Obama and their guns have gone nowhere in the last 8 years.

They obviously live in FEAR. That's a shame.

Those of us who can read the writing on the wall know that Trump is only using this line of attack because he knows it works to rile up the gun wackos. And I'm not saying that all people who have guns are wackos, just the ones who live in fear of Hillary and Obama and the Democrats taking away their God.

Trump is a sleazeball.

[MK]

What an effin liar Trump is. He continually says Hillary wants to take away your guns. That's a complete lie.

Many of the people who say/think such things will never equate "gun control" with anything less than the complete repeal of 2nd amendment rights. It's really that simple for them. It doesn't matter if she (or any other Democrat for that matter) sat there for 2 hours face-to-face and explained to them her ideas and exactly what she means. They would walk out of the room saying to each other "she is lying. she wants our guns." They would think the same no matter who it was.

The leftist do want a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.   What Trump said was right, If she wants to disarm the citizens why should she have the luxury of armed guards with those scary assault rifles?    Oh of course she wants a "assault weapons ban", but its clearly obvious the plan here. See the Communist republic of California and its assault weapons bans.  Its damn near impossible for law-abide folk to carry firearms.


Why should we trust a crooked liar anyway with the subject of guns?       

Case in point.

It's so convenient when you have evidence that is not only immediately accessible, but comes to you too.

They used the same tired lines with Obama and their guns have gone nowhere in the last 8 years.

They obviously live in FEAR. That's a shame.

Those of us who can read the writing on the wall know that Trump is only using this line of attack because he knows it works to rile up the gun wackos. And I'm not saying that all people who have guns are wackos, just the ones who live in fear of Hillary and Obama and the Democrats taking away their God.

Trump is a sleazeball.

See how the liberal logic works;      Clean record, law-abide citizen who owns guns = wacko

                                                    Felony record , career criminal who possess gun = Misunderstood harmless.   

[Hermit For Peace]

See how the liberal logic works;      Clean record, law-abide citizen who owns guns = wacko

                                                    Felony record , career criminal who possess gun = Misunderstood harmless.   

1.  You have a comprehension problem. I did not say that.



2.  I said the wackos are the ones who live in FEAR of Hillary and Obama and the Dems taking away their guns.



3.  That is an irrational FEAR.



4.  Most gun owners are not wackos. MOST gun owners WANT some type of gun control. Look it up, the numbers are out there. 80-90%.

[An American Tail: Fubart Goes West]

Making threats or inciting violence against your opponent is outside of political discourse. Wanting Hillary to be harmed is sick and anyone who supports Trump's comments proves that the basket of deplorables statement was correct.

[President Johnson]

Man, he just can't control himself. Now that he's almost ahead in the polls, he does it again. Saying something dumb and his lead slips away.

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Man, he just can't control himself. Now that he's almost ahead in the polls, he does it again. Saying something dumb and his lead slips away.

Everything is relative. THAT is not even comparable to Khan/Megyn stuff. Hillary is probably the only woman who Trump cannot be too mean to

[Zarn]

Reading through this thread, there is a couple of things that didn't make any sense to me.

Positions on gun control aside:

1) Trump is actually not advocating that the Secret Service agents protecting Clinton be disarmed. He was just calling Democrats hypocrites. Whether you think the is valid or not is your opinion, and I'm not getting into that. This is not a comment on people defending Clinton's stances and votes on gun control, especially since the comment was aimed at Clinton.

2) There is no way that all politician should be considered more important that any citizen. What you think is the best policy for protection is your belief. However, if you make a distinction between a politician and an average Joe or Jane in terms of importance, then you are being hypocritical against yourself. In theory, this should be a society of equals.

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

It's funny watching this statement now because he delivers it just like a stand-up comedian.  Maybe that's really just his whole campaign, the world's longest comedic tour.

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Reading through this thread, there is a couple of things that didn't make any sense to me.

Positions on gun control aside:

1) Trump is actually not advocating that the Secret Service agents protecting Clinton be disarmed. He was just calling Democrats hypocrites. Whether you think the is valid or not is your opinion, and I'm not getting into that. This is not a comment on people defending Clinton's stances and votes on gun control, especially since the comment was aimed at Clinton.

2) There is no way that all politician should be considered more important that any citizen. What you think is the best policy for protection is your belief. However, if you make a distinction between a politician and an average Joe or Jane in terms of importance, then you are being hypocritical against yourself. In theory, this should be a society of equals.

Of cource, Dems know it. But during this bad week, they have to find a reason to hate Trump for

[Inmate Trump]

This kind of rhetoric, whatever he meant by it (and the one previous), just puts another nail in the coffin of Republican me.  Trump has done nothing for me except to vow that I will never vote Republican for any office ever again.

The party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Reagan is dead.

Hillary Clinton, someone I never thought I would support, is my candidate for 2016, and I will proudly cast my vote for her.