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« on: September 18, 2016, 01:20:56 AM »

44% Clinton (D)
38% Trump (R)
  6% Johnson (L)
  2% Stein (G)

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http://www.startribune.com/how-the-poll-was-conducted/393840091

http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-poll-clinton-keeps-lead-but-trump-gains/393840031
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2016, 01:22:25 AM »

The MN Star Tribune also endorsed Trump:

http://www.startribune.com/the-case-for-trump/393785771/
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2016, 01:26:33 AM »


That's interesting, because they endorsed Kerry and Obama twice.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2016, 01:37:36 AM »


The StarTrib was purchased by a former GOP state senate minority leader in 2014.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2016, 01:45:55 AM »

For reference, at this point in 2012, they found Obama up 8. However, their final poll, taken in late October, only had him up 3.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2016, 01:48:06 AM »

Nothing to see here, Safe D.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2016, 01:50:45 AM »


The StarTrib was purchased by a former GOP state senate minority leader in 2014.

That's not a Star Tribune Editorial Board endorsement, is it?  The author is Stephen B. Young, "global executive director of the Caux Round Table, an international network of business leaders working to promote a moral capitalism."
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2016, 01:52:43 AM »


The StarTrib was purchased by a former GOP state senate minority leader in 2014.

That's not a Star Tribune Editorial Board endorsement, is it?  The author is Stephen B. Young, "global executive director of the Caux Round Table, an international network of business leaders working to promote a moral capitalism."

Apparently Tender didn't read the byline.
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2016, 02:02:37 AM »

The star Tribune was always a dem leaning newspaper, something must of changed since I left for college a little over a year ago.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2016, 02:05:16 AM »

The star Tribune was always a dem leaning newspaper, something must of changed since I left for college a little over a year ago.

The StarTrib was purchased by a former GOP state senate minority leader in 2014.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2016, 02:40:32 AM »

I hope Mason Dixon's general election polling is better than their caucus polling!

For reference Obama won MN by 10.24% in 2008 and 7.69% in 2012.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2016, 02:52:04 AM »

Mason Dixon has been a sh**t  piss right-leaning gaggle of c**nt-nuggets for YEARS!  This is great news for those of us who don't desire the Apocalypse!
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2016, 03:11:46 AM »
« Edited: September 18, 2016, 06:00:55 AM by StatesPoll »


Among independents, which could be a critical voting bloc in the coming election, Trump leads Clinton 43 percent to 32 percent.


interesting, Even in Minnesota, TRUMP takes +11% leads of Independent voters.

Minnesota, 2012, Independent voters(Exit Poll):
Obama 50% | Romney 44% | Other 6% (Obama +6%)
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/MN/president/

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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2016, 03:26:28 AM »

Pretty good news for Trump. B+ with (according to 538, recently solid)  D lean. But this race is so news dependent that the poll is sort of too old, LOL Grin
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2016, 05:13:12 AM »

Minnesota won't be that close, but even so, Democrats have a very high floor in the state. Even though I don't think the margin will be anywhere near states like California or Maryland, I have confidence that MN is Safe D.
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2016, 05:54:20 AM »

This is basically what Obama got here in 2012. It seems like its the status quo here.
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2016, 06:02:07 AM »

This is basically what Obama got here in 2012. It seems like its the status quo here.

At a minimum.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2016, 06:23:17 AM »

Minnesota seems like a pretty inelastic state. I imagine Trump can win here in he wins nationally by about 6 points. Kerry won by three here while losing by not quite 3. I think MI could be in the same boat. I think that these are the last two states, past PA, WI, CO,NH, NV a Republican can win absent a major defeat or major reccesion.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2016, 06:36:37 AM »

So I don't really understand, why you think that it is a good poll for Hillary?

538's polling average (weighted, but not adjusted): Hillary +9
538's polling average (weighted and adjusted for trendsline etc): Hillary +7

This poll has Hillary +6. It seems to have D house effect (538 add 3% to their latest polls).

Yes, it was taken during Trump's [temporary?] peak, but it is still not bad for Trump Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2016, 07:24:05 AM »

Trump is clearly at Romney levels now (with an adjustment for 3rd parties), and may continue to climb. Bar the door.
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2016, 07:26:38 AM »


The StarTrib was purchased by a former GOP state senate minority leader in 2014.

That's not a Star Tribune Editorial Board endorsement, is it?  The author is Stephen B. Young, "global executive director of the Caux Round Table, an international network of business leaders working to promote a moral capitalism."

Not only is it not an editorial board endorsement -- the author even states that he's not sure who he'll vote for or even if he will vote.  He's just listing some of the ways in which Trump appeals to him.
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2016, 07:30:53 AM »

Trump is clearly at Romney levels now (with an adjustment for 3rd parties), and may continue to climb. Bar the door.

Or might not.
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2016, 07:32:45 AM »

This was also taken from Monday to Wednesday, or, in other words, "Clinton's Dark Ages". No need to panic; if anything, reassuring that MN is so far to the left of the nation
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2016, 07:33:24 AM »

A paper now ran by republicans endorses a republican.  Big shock.
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2016, 07:42:17 AM »


The StarTrib was purchased by a former GOP state senate minority leader in 2014.

That's not a Star Tribune Editorial Board endorsement, is it?  The author is Stephen B. Young, "global executive director of the Caux Round Table, an international network of business leaders working to promote a moral capitalism."

Not only is it not an editorial board endorsement -- the author even states that he's not sure who he'll vote for or even if he will vote.  He's just listing some of the ways in which Trump appeals to him.

It basically sounds like a "phuckit" article and that because he has no confidence in his generation or "the system", that he is just considering voting on someone who could be an alibi "I didn't know" for America's next "adventure" whether its another war, law, or program or it's failure.
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