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Question: Will it, if at all, affect the polls?
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Swing to trump by or more than 1 point		  
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Swing to trump by less than 1		  
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No change		  
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Swing to clinton by or more than 1		  
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Swing to clinton by less than 1		  
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« on: September 19, 2016, 12:45:35 PM »
« edited: September 19, 2016, 12:50:44 PM by marty »
I say no change
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 12:48:06 PM »
I agree no change also. It was nothing but a disgruntled American making bombs out of pressure cookers. Nobody was killed so no change.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 12:49:15 PM »
No lives were lost and he was an American citizen. Its red meat for Trump supporters but thats about it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 12:58:41 PM »
Quote from: Spooky Mike on September 19, 2016, 12:48:06 PM
It was nothing but a disgruntled American making bombs out of pressure cookers.

So a Trump voter?

I guess the Southern Poverty Law Center can put this one in the right wing extremism column then.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 12:59:25 PM »
I'm kind of more curious if that Reddit thing is going to have legs.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2016, 01:01:15 PM »
Quote from: Angel of Death on September 19, 2016, 12:59:25 PM
I'm kind of more curious if that Reddit thing is going to have legs.

Reddit thing Huh
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2016, 01:03:04 PM »
I would have originally said that it would have been a wash, but Trump went on another Florida-esque bragging spree. So, I would now say it hurts him slightly (about 1%).
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2016, 01:05:15 PM »
Quote from: SirMuxALot on September 19, 2016, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: Spooky Mike on September 19, 2016, 12:48:06 PM
It was nothing but a disgruntled American making bombs out of pressure cookers.

So a Trump voter?

I guess the Southern Poverty Law Center can put this one in the right wing extremism column then.

There's been rumors that Trump actually was the catalyst in the bomber's motive. I don't know if it's true or not.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2016, 01:06:39 PM »
I feel like I should mention the guy who did this immigrated here when he was 2, i.e hes been here for 26 years.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2016, 01:07:02 PM »

For once I agree with you
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2016, 01:07:43 PM »

https://www.reddit.com/r/HillaryForPrison/comments/53gac1/citizen_journalist_sleuthed_up_key_bleachbit/
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2016, 01:12:18 PM »
Quote from: SirMuxALot on September 19, 2016, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: Spooky Mike on September 19, 2016, 12:48:06 PM
It was nothing but a disgruntled American making bombs out of pressure cookers.

So a Trump voter?

I guess the Southern Poverty Law Center can put this one in the right wing extremism column then.

All extremism is right wing. The left only supports positive movements.
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2016, 01:16:28 PM »
Helps Trump just a little bit, probably picks up a few dozen voters.
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2016, 01:17:31 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2016, 02:16:22 PM »
Quote from: Spooky Mike on September 19, 2016, 01:05:15 PM
There's been rumors that Trump actually was the catalyst in the bomber's motive. I don't know if it's true or not.

Wait, because he liked Trump or because he hated him?

Was Trump "asking for it"?
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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2016, 02:57:54 PM »
Quote from: SirMuxALot on September 19, 2016, 02:16:22 PM
Quote from: Spooky Mike on September 19, 2016, 01:05:15 PM
There's been rumors that Trump actually was the catalyst in the bomber's motive. I don't know if it's true or not.

Wait, because he liked Trump or because he hated him?

Was Trump "asking for it"?

http://newcenturytimes.com/2016/09/18/nyc-bombers-motive-revealed-blames-trump/
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2016, 03:04:53 PM »
So you're saying Trump should dress less provocatively?
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2016, 03:23:27 PM »
After reading this thread, I now understand how the Southern Poverty Law Center comes up with those statistics on right wing violence.

For instance, an abortion clinic bombing.  Committed by anti-abortion activist, so we chalk it up to right wing violence.  Okay.

Now we get this guy, not a right winger himself by any standard, but claims to be triggered by a right winger, so we can easily chalk this up as right wing violence.

Okay, I think I got it now.
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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2016, 03:26:21 PM »
Quote from: SirMuxALot on September 19, 2016, 03:23:27 PM
After reading this thread, I now understand how the Southern Poverty Law Center comes up with those statistics on right wing violence.

For instance, an abortion clinic bombing.  Committed by anti-abortion activist, so we chalk it up to right wing violence.  Okay.

Now we get this guy, not a right winger himself by any standard, but claims to be triggered by a right winger, so we can easily chalk this up as right wing violence.

Okay, I think I got it now.
"Triggered" by Trump in the same way that so many potential ISIS members would be. You should be scared for a Trump presidency, because this would not be the last time this happened.
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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2016, 03:44:21 PM »
A bigger attack would have had surely have a huge impact on the race but these will quickly fad  in the short news cycles of this election seasoon
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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2016, 04:14:23 PM »
Quote from: John Ewards on September 19, 2016, 03:26:21 PM
"Triggered" by Trump in the same way that so many potential ISIS members would be.

Surely an even more significant trigger would be our pluralistic society, freedom of religion, democratic elections, etc.

Would you similarly argue that this is a valid argument against us continuing these institutions? 

After all, if you think we should consider Trump's impact on extremists as an argument against Trump, then you must recognize that this will lead you to argue against freedom of religion, free elections and the like.
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2016, 04:30:48 PM »
Quote from: SirMuxALot on September 19, 2016, 04:14:23 PM
Quote from: John Ewards on September 19, 2016, 03:26:21 PM
"Triggered" by Trump in the same way that so many potential ISIS members would be.

Surely an even more significant trigger would be our pluralistic society, freedom of religion, democratic elections, etc.

Would you similarly argue that this is a valid argument against us continuing these institutions?  

After all, if you think we should consider Trump's impact on extremists as an argument against Trump, then you must recognize that this will lead you to argue against freedom of religion, free elections and the like.
Um. ISIS's whole narrative for existence is that Muslims are distrusted and oppressed worldwide. How exactly does another country being a democracy aid in that?

It is not that they (i.e. rank and file ISIS) are offended b the idea of foreign democracies. It is that they are scared of us, and fear breeds desperation.
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2016, 04:35:01 PM »
Quote from: John Ewards on September 19, 2016, 04:30:48 PM
How exactly does another country being a democracy aid in that?

Very good!  It doesn't.

Now take the next logical step to understand that Trump giving speeches also doesn't.
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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2016, 04:47:32 PM »
Quote from: SirMuxALot on September 19, 2016, 04:35:01 PM
Quote from: John Ewards on September 19, 2016, 04:30:48 PM
How exactly does another country being a democracy aid in that?

Very good!  It doesn't.

Now take the next logical step to understand that Trump giving speeches also doesn't.
A country being a democracy isn't going to strike fear into the hearts of Muslims worldwide. Trump's rhetoric is, and has actually been used by ISIS.
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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2016, 04:49:37 PM »
Quote from: John Ewards on September 19, 2016, 04:47:32 PM
Trump's rhetoric is, and has actually been used by ISIS.

Is ISIS correct in their interpretation of Trump's statements?  Are their actions justified?
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