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« on: September 19, 2016, 06:22:23 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2016, 12:30:18 AM »
Well duh, he was a KGB man, you think that as soon as he felt secure in power that he wouldn't revive something like it?
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2016, 06:16:24 AM »
The KGB never really disappeared, they'll just have an open vessel now
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2016, 10:35:26 AM »
Quote from: Hnv1 on September 20, 2016, 06:16:24 AM
The KGB never really disappeared, they'll just have an open vessel now

Yeah, the idea that Russia ever stopped doing KGB-like activities is laughable.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2016, 12:09:14 PM »
Quote from: Jante's Law Revivalist on September 20, 2016, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: Hnv1 on September 20, 2016, 06:16:24 AM
The KGB never really disappeared, they'll just have an open vessel now

Yeah, the idea that Russia ever stopped doing KGB-like activities is laughable.

I think what's newsworthy about this is that it's all being centralized into one, apparently highly visible, agency again.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2016, 02:12:26 PM »
There are parts of the Russian state security apparatus that haven't even bothered to change their name since the days of the USSR because they don't even pretend they're any different.
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2016, 05:05:41 PM »
Quote from: The Donald on September 20, 2016, 12:09:14 PM
Quote from: Jante's Law Revivalist on September 20, 2016, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: Hnv1 on September 20, 2016, 06:16:24 AM
The KGB never really disappeared, they'll just have an open vessel now

Yeah, the idea that Russia ever stopped doing KGB-like activities is laughable.

I think what's newsworthy about this is that it's all being centralized into one, apparently highly visible, agency again.

True. I guess this means Putin is now confident enough in his position not to even bother with appearances.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2016, 06:04:22 PM »
I'm rather excited by this. Aside from Anna Chapman honeypotting a cabinet member, I don't remember any compelling real life spy dramas. We need more John Stonehouses and what have you. I want to live in interesting times, this ISIS stuff is getting boring Tongue.
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2016, 09:09:20 PM »
MGB, eh? Could probably have come up with a better name than that.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2016, 01:52:07 AM »
What's the point of changing the name? Why not just keep FSB? It'd save money.
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2016, 06:39:33 AM »
Are the gulags next?
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2016, 01:30:46 PM »
Quote from: Citizen (The) Doctor on September 21, 2016, 01:52:07 AM
What's the point of changing the name? Why not just keep FSB? It'd save money.

It's not just renaming, it's a major reorganization - MGB will probably be FSB + FSO (Secret Service) and SVR (external intelligence), while the Investigative Committee will be returned to the Prosecutor General's office. Also, Ministry of Emergency Situations's duties will be shared between Ministry of Defence and Ministry of Internal Affairs.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2016, 07:19:32 PM »
Quote from: Pingvin on September 21, 2016, 01:30:46 PM
Quote from: Citizen (The) Doctor on September 21, 2016, 01:52:07 AM
What's the point of changing the name? Why not just keep FSB? It'd save money.

It's not just renaming, it's a major reorganization - MGB will probably be FSB + FSO (Secret Service) and SVR (external intelligence), while the Investigative Committee will be returned to the Prosecutor General's office. Also, Ministry of Emergency Situations's duties will be shared between Ministry of Defence and Ministry of Internal Affairs.

So yay for bureaucracy? I'm not tremendously familiar with how the old KGB used to work, but that seems terribly inefficient.
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2016, 10:47:51 PM »
They're still ahead of America. W
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2016, 10:50:47 PM »
Anerica never abolished the CIA so thats still a point for Russia I think.
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