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« on: September 19, 2016, 09:34:51 PM »

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/roy-blunt-ad-buy-senate-republicans-228373
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 09:40:44 PM »

Blunt is hardly an inspiring Senator and MO GOP is utter trash, for the most part, so I'm not surprised this is getting tighter. I just hope Blunt and Greitens can somehow win.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 09:41:04 PM »

It makes zero sense to vote Trump for president and then Kander for Senator, but it's Missourah... If only they could run Rob Portman in Missouri, lol.

What about people who want to place a check on Trump?
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 09:49:16 PM »

Btw: When was the last time a Republican Senator lost reelection while his or her party's presidential nominee won their state? It almost happened in Montana in 2000, but it's very rare.
Missouri 2000 (John Ashcroft). Funny since this is a Missouri thread, too.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 09:55:40 PM »

It's been even longer since it happened to a Democrat. (1992, I believe)
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2016, 09:59:42 PM »

It's been even longer since it happened to a Democrat. (1992, I believe)
1992 can be marked with an asterisk, as the Democrat in Georgia won the first round on election day with a plurality, but lost to Coverdell in the runoff, meaning his defeat did not happen at the same time that Clinton carried Georgia. Unless there was another race I forgot.
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2016, 01:42:14 AM »

If they want to defend Blunt, they better legalize marijuana- hey-o!

Seriously though, It's interesting to see how impressive a candidate Kander is. Weren't most people writing him off for months?
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2016, 02:07:13 AM »

Btw: When was the last time a Republican Senator lost reelection while his or her party's presidential nominee won their state? It almost happened in Montana in 2000, but it's very rare.

Ted Stevens in 2008.

Before that was Ashcroft in 2000, and before that was Larry Pressler in 1996.
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2016, 04:37:25 AM »

If they want to defend Blunt, they better legalize marijuana- hey-o!

Seriously though, It's interesting to see how impressive a candidate Kander is. Weren't most people writing him off for months?

For months all I heard was that he was weaker than Koster. Now he's running the best campaign of the cycle.
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2016, 04:45:27 AM »

Another factor to consider is that Johnson and Stein supporters will probably vote Dem down-ballot. Also, MO seems like the type of place with a lot of blue collar White Dems who'd fall for Trump's blue collar billionaire schtick but would otherwise continue voting Democratic.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2016, 09:40:07 AM »

"GOP Rushing to Defend Blunt"

And get 420% of the vote
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2016, 10:29:04 AM »

Democrats should definitely match their efforts. Looks like this race might actually be winnable.
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2016, 11:19:20 AM »

Lots of farmers and suburbanites are going to vote Trump at the top of the ballot and for Koster and Kander downballot.
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2016, 11:34:59 AM »

It makes zero sense to vote Trump for president and then Kander for Senator, but it's Missourah... If only they could run Rob Portman in Missouri, lol.

It actually makes a fair amount of sense IMO.  Trump is juicing white ConservaDem turnout to the max, and most of these voters are used to voting for downballot Dems, particularly those who appear at least somewhat moderate. 

We'll probably see this most in rural southeaster Missouri in the Lead Belt and the Bootheel and in "Little Dixie" in Northeastern Missouri.
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2016, 04:05:53 PM »

It's been even longer since it happened to a Democrat. (1992, I believe)

I believe Tom Daschle lost his seat in 2004 to John Thune by ~4000 votes.
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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2016, 04:21:10 PM »

It's been even longer since it happened to a Democrat. (1992, I believe)

I believe Tom Daschle lost his seat in 2004 to John Thune by ~4000 votes.
But Bush won South Dakota comfortably. The question is asking about incumbent Senators who lose reelection in Presidential years even as his or her party's nominee carries their home state.
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2016, 04:30:01 PM »

It's been even longer since it happened to a Democrat. (1992, I believe)

I believe Tom Daschle lost his seat in 2004 to John Thune by ~4000 votes.
But Bush won South Dakota comfortably. The question is asking about incumbent Senators who lose reelection in Presidential years even as his or her party's nominee carries their home state.

D'oh. Then yeah, Wyche Fowler is the last Democrat to lose his seat in a state the Dems won at the presidential level.
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2016, 04:20:21 PM »

This the Pat Roberts seat for this cycle...*sigh*
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2016, 06:17:07 PM »

Kander opposed the Iran deal. Very interesting. Dems definitely recruited really well for red state races. Bayh in IN also opposed the deal, meaning in two races in GOP states, we can't attack them on foreign affairs.

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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2016, 07:47:32 PM »

I never understood why Blunt was able to skate through his 2010 primary without any serious opposition. You had establishment Republicans getting primaried left and right (well, mostly right) in other states, and Roy Blunt is basically a generic pork-loving party apparatchik with no charisma or ideology.
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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2016, 08:22:57 PM »

I never understood why Blunt was able to skate through his 2010 primary without any serious opposition. You had establishment Republicans getting primaried left and right (well, mostly right) in other states, and Roy Blunt is basically a generic pork-loving party apparatchik with no charisma or ideology.

Points for "apparatchik"
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