Does the "alt-right"/nationalism/America-first" movment live and die with trump?

[Matty]

Or do you think that even if he loses, this is a trend that won't be going away?

[Phony Moderate]

Doubt it. Trump has a lot of disciples waiting to take over - Milo whateverus and various other internet talking heads like Stefan moleinyou. Plus there's Trump's kids etc.

[Person Man]

Wonder what happens to the movement if he wins? Does it take the mantle that neoconservative has as a sort of "ghost agenda" that is pervasive rules the Government with an iron fist if you look one way and just a hand full of Ivory Tower dwellers (not so much with this) and trolls with Government jobs that most people don't even like ?

[Seneca]

No, the alt-right and broader white nationalist movement is using Trump as a convenient vehicle to grow themselves, but once Trump is no longer useful they'll go on their own. Key white supremacist/neo-fascist groups like the Traditionalist Workers Party and the National Socialist Movement have had record recruiting years; they'll be stronger going forward regardless of what happens to Trump in November.

[YaBoyNY]

Did internet memes die with "dat boi"?

[Coolface Sock #42069]

No, it existed before Trump's candidacy, and it will outlast his candidacy as well.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

No, it existed before Trump's candidacy, and it will outlast his candidacy as well.

The Alt-right is a new thing though.  Hillary brought attention to them as part of a political ploy, and probably bolstered their numbers.

[Person Man]

No, it existed before Trump's candidacy, and it will outlast his candidacy as well.

The Alt-right is a new thing though.  Hillary brought attention to them as part of a political ploy, and probably bolstered their numbers.

So racism in 2010s are the drugs of the 80s-10s for kids? "Just Say No" is just understood as "It Is An Available Lifestyle Choice".

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

No, it existed before Trump's candidacy, and it will outlast his candidacy as well.

The Alt-right is a new thing though.  Hillary brought attention to them as part of a political ploy, and probably bolstered their numbers.

So racism in 2010s are the drugs of the 80s-10s for kids? "Just Say No" is just understood as "It Is An Available Lifestyle Choice".

I'm not saying that people were unaware that racism was still around until Hillary gave the speech.  But the alt-right was a very minor movement confined to the internet.  I knew of its existence last year, but that's only because I get involved in political discussions about Donald Trump.  The average American had never heard of the movement.  When Hillary gave the speech, searches for "alt-right" hit all-time records.

[Fuzzy Bear]

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This is not an election of a massive race-based revolt.  That's convenient drivel for the Clintonoids, but it's just not the case. 

This is an election where folks who have been screwed by the policies of the Bushes and the Clintons are seeking remediation in the form of a different direction from their government.  It's amazing how scared some folks are when a real change in course is proposed.

[Sumner 1868]

In a way, the "alt-right" is simply a more extreme version of the New Right movements of the 1970s - sort of like how "SJW's" are just a more extreme version of the New Left.

[Person Man]

In a way, the "alt-right" is simply a more extreme version of the New Right movements of the 1970s - sort of like how "SJW's" are just a more extreme version of the New Left.

Although I would like to think alt-right just means "reactionary" and "neonazi" as opposed to very conservative as "SJW" means to many "communist" and "radical" as opposed to very liberal. Its probably unfair for both.

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

In a way, the "alt-right" is simply a more extreme version of the New Right movements of the 1970s - sort of like how "SJW's" are just a more extreme version of the New Left.

Although I would like to think alt-right just means "reactionary" and "neonazi" as opposed to very conservative as "SJW" means to many "communist" and "radical" as opposed to very liberal. Its probably unfair for both.

The "alt-right" is a equal and opposite reaction to the "regressive left" to find the balance of human discourse again.  The regressive left wants to silence every opinion that's not theirs and every little thing that offends their precious (and extremely idiotic) sensibilities.  The alt-right is like a legion of Cartmans all doing and saying whatever they want, led by their leader Milo - a gay, right-wing Englishman of all things - likely borne out of what was the Gamergate debacle.

Eventually hopefully we'll find that freedom of speech is for everyone and trying to moderate social networks to make it a "safe place" is a Quixotic task.

[Person Man]

In a way, the "alt-right" is simply a more extreme version of the New Right movements of the 1970s - sort of like how "SJW's" are just a more extreme version of the New Left.

Although I would like to think alt-right just means "reactionary" and "neonazi" as opposed to very conservative as "SJW" means to many "communist" and "radical" as opposed to very liberal. Its probably unfair for both.

The "alt-right" is a equal and opposite reaction to the "regressive left" to find the balance of human discourse again.  The regressive left wants to silence every opinion that's not theirs and every little thing that offends their precious (and extremely idiotic) sensibilities.  The alt-right is like a legion of Cartmans all doing and saying whatever they want, led by their leader Milo - a gay, right-wing Englishman of all things - likely borne out of what was the Gamergate debacle.

Eventually hopefully we'll find that freedom of speech is for everyone and trying to moderate social networks to make it a "safe place" is a Quixotic task.

So basically, you make the alt-right seem like making the right-of-center into a lifestyle for those who "already have theirs" according to the elements of the left that focus on Civil Rights rather than equality in opportunity or participation but probably don't really have a disproportionate level of franchise.

[pbrower2a]

NO!

Donald Trump did not create it, but he certainly exploited it. The resentments and fears that underpin the alt-right movement will remain after Donald Trump is defeated in November -- assuming that he be defeated. Someone else will find the cause and exploit it.

Fears and resentments take much effort to undo. Republicans have been playing up fears and resentments for several decades. So what can cause those fears and resentments to disappear?

I have no answer.

[Person Man]

NO!

Donald Trump did not create it, but he certainly exploited it. The resentments and fears that underpin the alt-right movement will remain after Donald Trump is defeated in November -- assuming that he be defeated. Someone else will find the cause and exploit it.

Fears and resentments take much effort to undo. Republicans have been playing up fears and resentments for several decades. So what can cause those fears and resentments to disappear?

I have no answer.

What will lift Pepe's shadow over the country..?