Obama vetoes 9/11 bill

[hopper]

okay, as far as i can tell this covers virtually every Congressman who voted to sustain the veto:

- is a public member of the House Freedom Caucus
- is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus
- is a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus
- is a member of the House Intelligence Committee

That's weird that the "Freedom Caucus" voted with both the "Progressive" and "Black" Caucuses.

[Angel of Death]

No words.

And you people seriously take these clowns at their word that they will allow a President Clinton to fill the SCOTUS vacancy?

[Lyin' Steve]

There's such a strange dynamic going on here. It seems like opposition to this bill is unanimous: Obama, the CIA, the New York Times, a bunch of former US national security experts, the Kuwaiti government, and many others have all put out statements in opposition to JASTA. Yet in spite of this wall of opposition, the entire Senate remains completely united in passing it. What's going on here?


Also here is Cornyn's argument for passing JASTA and it's pretty convincing.

Yeah, I'm largely convinced by Cornyn. Obama goofed here.

Cornyn conflates this bill with FSIA, which holds foreign nations responsible for their diplomatically-immune citizens on U.S. soil.  Suing Saudi Arabia because one of its diplomats stole a purse is entirely different from suing Saudi Arabia because you suspect that someone in the Saudi government was connected to terrorism on American soil and therefore the whole government is responsible.

[Badger]

There's such a strange dynamic going on here. It seems like opposition to this bill is unanimous: Obama, the CIA, the New York Times, a bunch of former US national security experts, the Kuwaiti government, and many others have all put out statements in opposition to JASTA. Yet in spite of this wall of opposition, the entire Senate remains completely united in passing it. What's going on here?


Also here is Cornyn's argument for passing JASTA and it's pretty convincing.

Yeah, I'm largely convinced by Cornyn. Obama goofed here.

Cornyn conflates this bill with FSIA, which holds foreign nations responsible for their diplomatically-immune citizens on U.S. soil.  Suing Saudi Arabia because one of its diplomats stole a purse is entirely different from suing Saudi Arabia because you suspect that someone in the Saudi government was connected to terrorism on American soil and therefore the whole government is responsible.

hmmmm. Maybe you're right. i'm uncharacteristicall7 wishy-washy