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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
Ernest
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« on: September 24, 2016, 07:22:08 PM »

We have international courts for international legal action... domestic courts have absolutely no sovereignty over foreign nations or foreign nationals, so any ruling would be useless except for propaganda and stirring-up-sh**t purposes.
You have read the U.S. Constitution, haven't you?  Specifically, Article I Section 8 Clause 10: "To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;"

Now I don't think that the law Congress has proposed is a wise law, but it is constitutional.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2016, 07:35:39 AM »

That would be our companies' problem for choosing to business under such a climate. Look, I couldn't care less whether we stick it to Saudi Arabia or are best friends with them, but if the 911 families can win in court against the Saudi government, they deserve the opportunity to have that chance.

Okay, so here's how this works: The 9/11 families sue the government of Saudi Arabia in U.S. federal court. No one from Saudi Arabia shows up to court. The 9/11 families get a default judgment against Saudi Arabia. Technically the 9/11 families "win," but good luck collecting on that judgment. So nobody gets their "day in court" proving their claims against the Saudi government. Therefore, even as a symbolic gesture, this bill is useless.

It could go even worse for the 9/11 families if the court concludes that even their unrebutted argument is unable to prove their case.
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