Serious question: When will the US start taking in asylum seekers ?
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Tetro Kornbluth
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« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2015, 08:29:38 AM »

The US has now agreed to take in 8.000 Syrian aslum seekers next year.

8 friggin' thousand.



The US took 1.3 mln. Indochinese refugees. How many did Austria take?

Austria took 300.000 refugees from Yugoslavia in the early 1990s.

That's equivalent of the US taking 12 million refugees on a per capita basis.

And this is just one example: Austria also took in 100.000s of asylum seekers during the 1950s and 1960s when the Soviets invaded Hungary and Czechoslovakia.

The thing is that the US isn't doing its fair share now: Just stirring up the hornets nests in AfPak, Syria and Iraq - but then stealing themselves out of responsibility when the human toll comes up and leaving that to the Europeans (or some of these countries) ... that's not how it should work. Obama did not get his Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing.

Actually I think you will find that he did
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« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2015, 08:47:59 AM »

I agree that 8k is absurdly low for Syrian refugees. I would think there would be the political will to increase that, but maybe recognizing the fear of there being a covert terrorist or two among the number has kept it from being something politicians have got in front of.
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« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2015, 03:47:55 PM »

I agree that 8k is absurdly low for Syrian refugees. I would think there would be the political will to increase that, but maybe recognizing the fear of there being a covert terrorist or two among the number has kept it from being something politicians have got in front of.

Harper wants Canada to take 10k, so yes, it's low (but they can't take any right now, since government is only caretaker until October elections).
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« Reply #53 on: September 03, 2015, 10:03:08 PM »

Serious question: When will the US start taking in asylum seekers ?

So you guys are always whining about "Wahhh our population is decreasing/stagnating" but then the solution comes to your doorstep and you still whine? Austria/Germany need more population growth. The USA does not. Furthermore, it was Austria/Germany who started two World Wars which destabilized everything and gave rise to the USA which in turn made a mess of things in Iraq/Syria. So it's your fault and you should take more refugees.
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« Reply #54 on: September 03, 2015, 10:21:50 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2015, 10:34:42 PM by Thomas from NJ »

Serious question: When will the US start taking in asylum seekers ?

So you guys are always whining about "Wahhh our population is decreasing/stagnating" but then the solution comes to your doorstep and you still whine? Austria/Germany need more population growth.

Immigration is not the only solution to that problem. Young Austrians and Germans can start having more children.

Europe wouldn't be having a population decline problem (or, at least, not nearly as much of one) if it had never embraced secularism (which resulted in the loosening of sexual morals and people viewing the family as less important), birth control and abortion. In the Netherlands, for example, the most fertile town is the conservative Christian stronghold of Urk. Imagine if all of Europe were like Urk.
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« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2015, 04:30:04 AM »

Serious question: When will the US start taking in asylum seekers ?

So you guys are always whining about "Wahhh our population is decreasing/stagnating" but then the solution comes to your doorstep and you still whine? Austria/Germany need more population growth. The USA does not. Furthermore, it was Austria/Germany who started two World Wars which destabilized everything and gave rise to the USA which in turn made a mess of things in Iraq/Syria. So it's your fault and you should take more refugees.

No.
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« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2015, 04:48:28 AM »

Serious question: When will the US start taking in asylum seekers ?

So you guys are always whining about "Wahhh our population is decreasing/stagnating" but then the solution comes to your doorstep and you still whine? Austria/Germany need more population growth. The USA does not. Furthermore, it was Austria/Germany who started two World Wars which destabilized everything and gave rise to the USA which in turn made a mess of things in Iraq/Syria. So it's your fault and you should take more refugees.

We're discussing how we will pay for the older part of the population, which is increasing as size of the population, increasing the number of a very expensive minority will do little to help on that issue. Just so we're clear the average middle easterner in Europe cost the country they live in more than the state in question get from them, East European immigrants on the other hand give a surplus.
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« Reply #57 on: September 20, 2016, 06:54:40 AM »

But how has that worked out for you Europeans, socially and politically? Is a USA taking in 600,000-1,500,000 refugees a year (to which I'm not even necessarily opposed!), wise idea, a viable long term solution to your problem? All while propping up the Continent militarily? It is not a solution at all. Particularly when you tout the "need" to get our population growth "under control".

Can you imagine the political backlash? An American version of the anti-immigrant right?

Hoo boy.
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« Reply #58 on: September 25, 2016, 01:29:37 AM »

Time for the US to send charter planes to Lebanon, Turkey and Kabul to pick up the millions of asylum seekers that are now coming to Europe.

After all, the US created all this mess and mass migration because of the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and the destruction of Libya.

But we* should foot the human and financial bill now ? Yeah, right ...

First bombing these places into the ground, then stealing yourselves out of responsibility.

(By "we", I mean mostly Germany/Sweden and Austria - who are taking up the bulk of the US-induced war/economic refugees).



You mentioned Afghanistan.  Which actions by the U.S. in Afghanistan created "this mess?"
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« Reply #59 on: September 25, 2016, 06:12:51 AM »

Time for the US to send charter planes to Lebanon, Turkey and Kabul to pick up the millions of asylum seekers that are now coming to Europe.

After all, the US created all this mess and mass migration because of the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and the destruction of Libya.

But we* should foot the human and financial bill now ? Yeah, right ...

First bombing these places into the ground, then stealing yourselves out of responsibility.

(By "we", I mean mostly Germany/Sweden and Austria - who are taking up the bulk of the US-induced war/economic refugees).



You mentioned Afghanistan.  Which actions by the U.S. in Afghanistan created "this mess?"

Support of the Mujaheddin, support of Islamic fascism, support and training of leaders which would join the Taliban. Lack of a detailed plan in the Afghan war, focus on Iraq, and turning back on Afghanistan, resulting in the 2nd Taliban. The Iraq war and the mess that resulted from, which further allowed al-qaeda and the likes of it to spread.
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« Reply #60 on: September 25, 2016, 11:31:28 PM »

Time for the US to send charter planes to Lebanon, Turkey and Kabul to pick up the millions of asylum seekers that are now coming to Europe.

After all, the US created all this mess and mass migration because of the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and the destruction of Libya.

But we* should foot the human and financial bill now ? Yeah, right ...

First bombing these places into the ground, then stealing yourselves out of responsibility.

(By "we", I mean mostly Germany/Sweden and Austria - who are taking up the bulk of the US-induced war/economic refugees).



You mentioned Afghanistan.  Which actions by the U.S. in Afghanistan created "this mess?"

Support of the Mujaheddin, support of Islamic fascism, support and training of leaders which would join the Taliban. Lack of a detailed plan in the Afghan war, focus on Iraq, and turning back on Afghanistan, resulting in the 2nd Taliban. The Iraq war and the mess that resulted from, which further allowed al-qaeda and the likes of it to spread.

Gosh those Americans just screw everything up don't they?
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« Reply #61 on: September 26, 2016, 10:53:34 PM »

Time for the US to send charter planes to Lebanon, Turkey and Kabul to pick up the millions of asylum seekers that are now coming to Europe.

After all, the US created all this mess and mass migration because of the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and the destruction of Libya.

But we* should foot the human and financial bill now ? Yeah, right ...

First bombing these places into the ground, then stealing yourselves out of responsibility.

(By "we", I mean mostly Germany/Sweden and Austria - who are taking up the bulk of the US-induced war/economic refugees).



You mentioned Afghanistan.  Which actions by the U.S. in Afghanistan created "this mess?"

Support of the Mujaheddin, support of Islamic fascism, support and training of leaders which would join the Taliban. Lack of a detailed plan in the Afghan war, focus on Iraq, and turning back on Afghanistan, resulting in the 2nd Taliban. The Iraq war and the mess that resulted from, which further allowed al-qaeda and the likes of it to spread.

Gosh those Americans just screw everything up don't they?

American and NATO foreign policy is a lot blame yes.
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