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Famous Mortimer
WillipsBrighton
Junior Chimp
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« on: October 07, 2016, 02:08:28 PM »

I still think it will go down like this: The next Prime Minister or the Prime Minister after next will be some right-wing expansionist who will annex the West Bank wholesale. Palestinians there will either be immediately made citizens and given the right to vote, or else there will be a boycott from the EU that causes the next government to give them citizenship and voting rights. In the first election after that, the Arab parties and the left team up, Israel becomes a secular nation, changes their flag and national anthem and maybe even their name. The border with Gaza will also be open, shortly after that, the Arab led government will vote to simply absorb Gaza. More than 50% of Israeli Jews will immigrate to the United States.
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Famous Mortimer
WillipsBrighton
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2016, 03:03:24 PM »

With regards to the Israeli left being too pro-2 state, I've had this discussion before on here. I just don't believe it. Certainly many young activists on the left are open to a single, non-Jewish state. Even among the establishment politicians of the centre-left, I think many have secretly made peace with the idea. Publicly they are very strong for 2 states though because they are worried about being painted as traitors or unpatriotic. It's simply overcompensation. The same reason they call their party "Zionist Union". It reminds me of how American Democrats backed the Iraq War and opposed gay marriage to prove they weren't dangerous radicals but as soon as the political winds become more favorable, they revealed their real positions.

With regards to Gaza, I'm even more sure you are wrong there. Egypt will not take it. It might become independent for an interim period but as soon as tensions with Israel ease (which is likely if West Bank Arabs are given citizenship), immigration and cross border trade will dramatically increase. Israel and Gaza will become economically entwined in such a way that unification will become inevitable (especially if the Israeli Arabs continually campaign for it).
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Famous Mortimer
WillipsBrighton
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2016, 01:21:35 PM »

A single unified state wouldn't have two official nationalities. Very few states have "official nationalities" at all. They are just the states of the people who live there.
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Famous Mortimer
WillipsBrighton
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2016, 01:31:35 AM »
« Edited: October 19, 2016, 01:33:08 AM by Famous Mortimer »

The solution to prejudice is to eliminate prejudice, not to indulge it by engaging in ethno-separatism.
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