HB 2016-1038 - Atlasian Official Language Act (FAILED)

[NeverAgain]

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Sponsor: 1184AZ

I open this up for a 48-hour debate.

[tmthforu94]

For reference, there are over 300 languages spoken in the Atlasia, many coming from our First Nations people.

[LLR]

Endorsed! A necessary outreach to our Latino community.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

As Atlasia has nearly 13% of Atlasians speak Spanish as their first language it is essential that we pass a bill protecting their language rights. This bill ensures that Spanish speakers will have fair and equal access to both government services but the ability to access government regulations and laws in their language of choice. Spanish speakers will be able to represent themselves speaking Spanish in front of Atlasia federal courts. This bill also ensures that all Atlasia students will have access to learning both of Atlasia official languages fluently.   

[Terry the Fat Shark]

Students ( especially in the north) should not be required to learn Spanish.

[Kingpoleon]

I refuse to vote to make any language(s) the official language(s).

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

What about French speakers in parts of Louisiana and northern New England?

(I'm opposed to the concept of official languages in principle, for the record, but French should absolutely be taught in schools in these areas.  Nevada would also have to be designated as a "bilingual" state for Spanish speakers.)

[NeverAgain]

I mean I will point out that in many nations, students are required to be bilingual (or in some cases trilingual) in a certain language. I know that in Costa Rica, they were mandated to speak English in their early grade school years. I would be fine with mandating all gov't documents and resources be able to be produced in Españiol, along with expanding language opportunities in our schools (especially in the early Pre-K to 6th grade).

I am not supportive of a national language(s), as we are made up by incredible diversity that should not be limited to one's spoken language. I cannot say I am a current supporter of this bill.

[Enduro]

Atlasia doesn't need an official language.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

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Sponsor: 1184AZ

I open this up for a 48-hour debate.

After reading through the comments on this bill I propose the following amendment.

[Clark Kent]

Atlasia doesn't need an official language.

[Anna Komnene]

I do think we need better foreign language education in our country with more options at an earlier age and better resources, but as it stands, this is basically an unfunded mandate.  It would put a lot of pressure on regions, states, and localities to come up with the funds to hire new teachers and institute new programs.  I would support a bill that made funding available for schools to improve and implement new foreign language programs.

I'm also sympathetic to the needs of people that don't speak English very well, but I don't think I can support these reforms in the context of an official language.  Not having an official language is a very important element of the US being a country of immigrants, not just a country of English speakers (or in this case English and Spanish speakers).

[Blair]

I'll chime in from the Senate- I agree with Siren. As someone who was made to learn a foreign language at school despite both hating it and being awful at it I have concerns over mandating the teaching of foreign languages

[NeverAgain]

Kay, y'all get the drill. 48-hour principle vote.

Aye, Nay, Abstain.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Aye

[LLR]

Nay, an official language is restrictive and we should encourage other methods of language education.

[Enduro]

Nay.

[NeverAgain]

Yo voto negativo. Este proyecto de ley es estúpido porque nacional idiomas soy poco prácticos. Y este tampoco aun así no hacer avanzar educación de idoma. Por lo tanto, yo voto 'NAY'.

If this bill had included measures to actually help Atlasians read, instead of making (as was said) an unfunded mandate, you all would be able to read that. Sad!

[LLR]

Yo voto negativo. Este proyecto de ley es estúpido porque nacional idiomas soy poco prácticos. Y este tampoco aun así no hacer avanzar educación de idoma. Por lo tanto, yo voto 'NAY'.

If this bill had included measures to actually help Atlasians read, instead of making (as was said) an unfunded mandate, you all would be able to read that. Sad!

Who says I can't read it?

[NeverAgain]

Yo voto negativo. Este proyecto de ley es estúpido porque nacional idiomas soy poco prácticos. Y este tampoco aun así no hacer avanzar educación de idoma. Por lo tanto, yo voto 'NAY'.

If this bill had included measures to actually help Atlasians read, instead of making (as was said) an unfunded mandate, you all would be able to read that. Sad!

Who says I can't read it?

La disculpa, mi amigo! Hay unos muchos gringos en este foruma.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Jeg ønsker å bruke denne anledningen til å be om privileget å skrive alle mine fremtidige innlegg på dette forumet i norsk.

Takk.

[Anna Komnene]

Nay

[Clark Kent]

NAY

[Clyde1998]

Jeg ønsker å bruke denne anledningen til å be om privileget å skrive alle mine fremtidige innlegg på dette forumet i norsk.

Takk.

Dhiùltadh. Ma tha thu a thagh na Gàidhlig mar chànan agad fhèin, an uair sin tha mi a dh'fhaodadh a bhith air gabhail ris an iarrtas.

I did have to use Google Translate for that. My school only taught me "un petit peu de français".

[White Trash]

I just wanted to add this bit as a comment. This sort of legislation doesn't take into account any possible change of demographics. In the 1840s and 1850s should we have made German an official language? Should Irish Gaelic have been made an official language in the 1880s? Italian in in the 1890s? Where does it end? Will we keep rewriting this legislation as new groups of immigrants continue to come to Atlasia?

This legislation isn't pragmatic and is unnecessary as regional and municipal governments are already proving bilingual services when necessary.