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« on: September 29, 2016, 02:57:44 PM »
« edited: September 29, 2016, 03:03:20 PM by Virginia »

https://www.thenation.com/article/wisconsin-is-systematically-failing-to-provide-the-photo-ids-required-to-vote-in-november/

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So here is what happened previously: 2 federal judges ruled against the WI voter ID law, with 1 requiring WI to allow voters without ID to sign an affidavit, thus not disenfranchising anyone. The second judge in a separate case ruled that WI provide IDs to anyone in need before the election. This was appealed, and the 7th circuit overturned the lower court ruling allowing affidavits, leaving only the ruling that they quickly provide IDs.

But that isn't happening. Wisconsin promised to revamp the rules/process for this and quickly issue IDs, and they still have not done this. It doesn't even seem like some employees are aware of what they are supposed to be doing.

At this point it doesn't matter whether this is malicious or pure incompetence - they are not abiding by the order and is an insult to the court and the people disenfranchised by this bogus law. This is all the more reason to allow the affidavit option.


...but it gets better!

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/09/20/dmv-proposes-limits-voter-id-cards/90734878/

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So now Walker wants to require IDs, but remove fraud protections and basically make this nothing but a useless hurdle for minorities and young people to jump over to vote? If voter fraud is so rampant, why remove fraud protections and allow anyone to get an ID?

At this point it's pretty clear their voter ID law has nothing to do with fraud and everything to do with suppressing voters who don't vote Republican. Legislators and aides in Wisconsin have admitted as much, and now Walker's plan basically proves that point.


Absolutely ridiculous.
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2016, 07:08:36 PM »

He's not going to get away with this sh*t... is he?
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2016, 07:22:17 PM »

He's not going to get away with this sh*t... is he?
Of course he is.  Wisconsin seems to love the guy.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2016, 07:24:51 PM »

They have to provide ID to people to vote. They plan on doing so. They also have a responsibility to the taxpayers to use government resources efficiently.

If you want an ID to do something else, go through the normal process. I don't get what the problem is.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2016, 10:18:45 PM »
« Edited: September 29, 2016, 10:37:18 PM by Virginia »

They have to provide ID to people to vote. They plan on doing so. They also have a responsibility to the taxpayers to use government resources efficiently.

If you want an ID to do something else, go through the normal process. I don't get what the problem is.

Why not read the article(s)?

They were court ordered to revamp the way IDs are provided and to significantly reduce wait times and bureaucratic bs so people can get IDs before the election. They apparently have not done either - not in the way the court ordered them to. Previously they were making it nearly impossible for certain people to get IDs (this is well-documented at this point). Judging by what was going on at the DMV in that session, it's like Walker/the state acknowledged the court order, said they'd change stuff, and then when it was out of the news, went back to doing absolutely nothing to comply or get people with issues their IDs.

Further, Walker is proposing IDs that have little anti-fraud features and that basically anyone can get with little documentation. What is the point of requiring this then? If they only have to provide, say, proof of residence, why not just let them provide that at the polls instead of adding an extra hurdle (like other non-strict voter ID states do)? Oh, right, because he wants to reduce turnout among the opposition.

Look, if you actually support/want voter ID laws, then even you should have a problem with this.
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