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« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2016, 01:27:31 PM »

I think it's about time that we had a party that wasn't a clone of labor. Thanks for the endorsement!
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« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2016, 01:35:37 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2016, 01:39:06 PM »

Awesome! Glad to have you join us, TJ! Cheesy
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« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2016, 05:06:06 PM »

It's concerning to see people getting so triggered by equal rights that they feel the need to have their own safe space.
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« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2016, 11:34:51 PM »

When was the last time a homosexual man was fined 125k? The pendulum has swung in the other direction.
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2016, 12:02:07 AM »

When was the last time a homosexual man was fined 125k? The pendulum has swung in the other direction.

wot. Probably when a gay guy did something illegal that was worth fining 125k. Maybe piracy. Dunno.

Hard to believe, but we gay people do naughty things too. (Not including anti-sin sodomy).
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2016, 12:25:50 AM »

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Well, then. Find me examples. I can't think of any in the last 60 or so years. Maybe ever.

You talk about prejudice and I'm honestly not seeing any homosexual men who have been fined 125k for their homosexuality.

There has been a Christian fined 125k for their Christianity, so not only has the pendulum has swung, it's swung incredibly far the other way.
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2016, 12:37:30 AM »

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Well, then. Find me examples. I can't think of any in the last 60 or so years. Maybe ever.

You talk about prejudice and I'm honestly not seeing any homosexual men who have been fined 125k for their homosexuality.

There has been a Christian fined 125k for their Christianity, so not only has the pendulum has swung, it's swung incredibly far the other way.

lol. Show me that "legitimate" example.
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2016, 02:36:44 AM »

Are you challenging the assertion that a Christian has been fined 125k for their Christianity?
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« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2016, 08:49:52 AM »

Are you challenging the assertion that a Christian has been fined 125k for their Christianity?

Yes, he is. Also, I kinda would like to see proof.
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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2016, 10:37:13 AM »

No, I don't recall any Christians in Atlasia being fined solely for their religion, though a few have probably been fined for being discriminatory assholes.
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« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2016, 11:20:09 AM »

Are you challenging the assertion that a Christian has been fined 125k for their Christianity?

Of course, I am. There is NO case that exists of someone being attacked for practicing their religion. On the case of your strangely specific assertion, I would assume you are referring to this cupcake shop who was fined $135k ("awarded $60,000 to Laurel Bowman-Cryer and $75,000 in damages to Rachel Bowman-Cryer for emotional suffering.”).

This isn't practicing a religion, this is blunt discrimination and they were punished for it. I think the fact that you are trying to frame discrimination as "practicing their religion" is a sick statement, and should offend any Christian who actually follows the teachings of Jesus.

Stop it.
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« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2016, 02:44:30 PM »
« Edited: October 10, 2016, 02:49:17 PM by IDS Ex-Speaker Ben Kenobi »

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Ah. I see. Yes, it is contrary to the First Amendment which protects the rights to freedom of speech and expression, and that includes the ability to practice one's religion.

I'm glad to see that you've still yet to provide evidence of any homosexual man or woman who's had to pay 125k because they were homosexual. Again, the pendulum has swung. That a Christian baker can be fined 125k for declining to participate in a homosexual wedding, is contrary to the constitution and to Natural Law for the provision of freedom of association and freedom of conscience.

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« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2016, 02:46:34 PM »
« Edited: October 10, 2016, 03:11:16 PM by IDS Ex-Speaker Ben Kenobi »

That being said, I'm calling the vote. I will probably roll out more policies but it's time that we voted on the 4 that are up right now.

Ben Kenobi, Thomas from NJ and Santander are all eligible to vote.

1. Flag of the ACP, YEA or NAY or Amend
2. Motto of the ACP, YEA or NAY or Amend
3. Traditional marriage plank of the ACP, YEA or NAY or Amend
4. Prolife plank of the ACP, YEA or NA or Amend.
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« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2016, 07:35:28 PM »

1. Yea
2. Yea
3. Yea
4. Yea
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« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2016, 11:51:06 PM »

Yes to all for me. We'll wait for Santander.

Next up will be party constitution, and a few others.
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« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2016, 12:03:33 PM »
« Edited: October 12, 2016, 09:41:36 PM by IDS Ex-Speaker Ben Kenobi »

Thomas from NJ is now deputy leader of the party.
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« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2016, 03:53:39 PM »

While I still think you're throwing a giant hissy fit, I have to commend the ACP for refusing to tolerate Santander's blatant racism and kicking him out.
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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2016, 04:01:35 PM »

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Odd. It is the Federalists who have taken him back. Wink

Can I quote you on that?
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« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2016, 04:15:03 PM »

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Odd. It is the Federalists who have taken him back. Wink
We didn't take him back. He's like an infestation that refuses to die out.

And you CAN quote me on this.
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« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2016, 04:50:02 PM »

No you cannot quote Clark on that, he does not represent the party's view on Santander solely.
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« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2016, 07:29:17 PM »

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Sounds like one big happy family. Smiley
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« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2016, 08:27:49 PM »

Senator DFW is right. These are my comments, and do not reflect anyone else's views. You can quote me, and only me on this. What I say does not necessarily reflect the views of the Federalist Party.
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« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2016, 09:27:56 PM »


At best this party is a pathetic troll from someone old enough to be past pathetic trolling, at worst this is a manifestation of an alarming hatred of people different than you, but the saddest thing about this party might be that you seem to genuinely think that Thomas from NJ and TJ are the same people.
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« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2016, 09:39:54 PM »

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