Poland General Discussion

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Lol not even Kaczynski's bros Orban and Fico backed him up? Lol, cucked.

Orban's FB profile is being invaded by bitter PiS hacks, complaining about "treason", LOL

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

Lol not even Kaczynski's bros Orban and Fico backed him up? Lol, cucked.

Orban's FB profile is being invaded by bitter PiS hacks, complaining about "treason", LOL

This is even better.

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CBOS poll:

PiS: 37%
PO: 19%
Kukiz: 9%
Nowoczesna: 8%
PSL: 5%
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SLD: 4%
Current Korwin's party: 2%
Razem: 2%

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CBOS poll:

PiS: 37%
PO: 19%
Kukiz: 9%
Nowoczesna: 8%
PSL: 5%
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SLD: 4%
Current Korwin's party: 2%
Razem: 2%

Wow 'modernmentum' didn't last very long lmao.

Definitely surprised kukiz still has a solid vote base. It seemed like a party that would be prone to immediate explosion.

[DavidB.]

Which pollsters can be trusted in Poland, and which ones can't?

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

CBOS poll:

PiS: 37%
PO: 19%
Kukiz: 9%
Nowoczesna: 8%
PSL: 5%
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SLD: 4%
Current Korwin's party: 2%
Razem: 2%

Wow 'modernmentum' didn't last very long lmao.

Definitely surprised kukiz still has a solid vote base. It seemed like a party that would be prone to immediate explosion.

Nowoczesna leaders are working hard to lose all support they got starting from this:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/poland-opposition-leader-slammed-vacation-during-crisis
and ending on multiple gaffes and not really clever statements.


As for the Kukiz this is hard topic and I can say something about it but later.


As for the polling companies IBRIS and TNS used to be the best, I can't tell if they are still.

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PiS snoflakes invading Orban's FB profile:



"You world-class lice. What kind of title do you even have? You are nothing, I hope Tusk licked a hole in your ass. You've been supported by the Poles, but not those from Tusk, you naive lice. You won't have our support again. We will forget about you."



"You Hungarian traitor."



"Did Merkel promised you a German citizenship too? You are just the same as sick, Islamic Union."

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According to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung, Tusk was pretty much a goner until Kaczyński saved his ass by throwing a hissy fit.

Thanks, Jarosław

[ApatheticAustrian]

fun stuff...polish web is buzzing about this and the homepage of the online edition of the FAZ is empty....

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Korwin's suspended as MEP for 10 days (and won't get a month salary) for being a misogynist dumbass.

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

http://www.electograph.com/2017/03/poland-march-2017-ibris-poll-2.html

Strange poll.

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It almost appears as Kaczyński is no longer in control, since he can't even deal with Macierewicz's antics. Years ago he'd just purge the old fossil, now he's just stating, in a rare public appearance, Macierewicz "excesses should be curbed".


On unrelated note I drove past two American military convoys today moving east in Białystok direction. I was lucky for American soldiers are known to cause traffic accidents.

[ApatheticAustrian]

@Kal...could you plz be a little bit more specific for people not fluent in polish?

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It appears our great explorer Waszczykowski (who discovered the mysterious land of San Escobar) may soon be tossed overboard.

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

It almost appears as Kaczyński is no longer in control, since he can't even deal with Macierewicz's antics. Years ago he'd just purge the old fossil, now he's just stating, in a rare public appearance, Macierewicz "excesses should be curbed".


On unrelated note I drove past two American military convoys today moving east in Białystok direction. I was lucky for American soldiers are known to cause traffic accidents.

1. What if he don't want to remove Macierewicz now? I mean, he is very hawkish so popular among "core" PiS voters and as for now they have still some time to the elections. Kaczyński can kick him before elections just to show centre voters "look we are nice again", and after elections give him some post as they always do.

2. Lol

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

Very important things are now going on in Poland.



PSL have lost one MP and now its parliamentary club have only 15 MPs - just enough to have parliamentary club but they are close to losing right to form club which PSL was able to form since 1990.

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Very important things are now going on in Poland.



PSL have lost one MP and now its parliamentary club have only 15 MPs - just enough to have parliamentary club but they are close to losing right to form club which PSL was able to form since 1990.

I remember when UP (Labor Union) went down from 15 to 14 MPs after Małachowski's death, SLD (being the major coalition party at the time) "lend" them one of their MPs, so UP could retain the right to have a parliamentary club.

PSL sure went a long way from being the second largest party between 1993 to 1997 to current pitiful state, never recovering from the 1997 slaughter.

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A little note: when an MP dies or resigns, she or he is replaced with the next person from the party list that fell short winning during the election. Grzegorz Napieralski, former SLD leader (and now PO Senator) is one of numerous examples. Of course with more than one parties running together or other subsequent reasons, the replacement member might not be associated with the club (that's how UPR once got their lone MP, because they ran with PO in 2001, winning no seats back then). This, of course, does not reflect a situation when a member switches parties/clubs.

As of Senators, there are special elections, but Senate is a joke anyway. Hell, since they introduced single districts I took my ballot home on both occasions.


Oh, other major s**t is going on right now, but I don't think I have enough energy for a large post. Kaatak, will you do the honors?

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

Oh, other major s**t is going on right now, but I don't think I have enough energy for a large post. Kaatak, will you do the honors?

Nah, this is pretty boring at this point. PSL is more interesting.

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Oh, other major s**t is going on right now, but I don't think I have enough energy for a large post. Kaatak, will you do the honors?

Nah, this is pretty boring at this point. PSL is more interesting.

Well, to be honest, yes. Maybe I'm too cynical, but it was pretty much a skilfull political trolling of everyone by The Jarosław™

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

Oh, other major s**t is going on right now, but I don't think I have enough energy for a large post. Kaatak, will you do the honors?

Nah, this is pretty boring at this point. PSL is more interesting.

Well, to be honest, yes. Maybe I'm too cynical, but it was pretty much a skilfull political trolling of everyone by The Jarosław™

I don't know if that skillful, he lost his temper and protests are starting to be more and more non-partisan what for PiS is bad. Still holidays are coming and everything will smooth down.

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

I have a lot of things to do with my master's thesis so I guess it is good moment to start some discussion about Polish politics? Maybe you all have some questions? Do not hesitate to ask.

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I have a lot of things to do with my master's thesis so I guess it is good moment to start some discussion about Polish politics? Maybe you all have some questions? Do not hesitate to ask.

What do you think about inevitable landslide victory for Razem in 2019?

I saw on FB it's coming, so...

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

Razem is probably moving toward total failure in local elections as I don't see that ideological purists will cooperate with other more liberal parties of the left on local level. And they don't understand that for them getting city councilors, sejmiks members is the only way to get any support bigger than 3%. Probably the only city when they alone have decent result is Wrocław.

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Razem is probably moving toward total failure in local elections as I don't see that ideological purists will cooperate with other more liberal parties of the left on local level. And they don't understand that for them getting city councilors, sejmiks members is the only way to get any support bigger than 3%. Probably the only city when they alone have decent result is Wrocław.

Interestingly during elections for borough councils Razem did cooperate with Greens. But I don't see purists "compromising themselves" by working on something bigger with muh fake left.