Longwood University Vice Presidential debate @ 9pm ET **live commentary thread**

[Dr. Arch]

Pence is looking uninformed and can only stick to talking points. Whenever a curve ball is thrown, he tries to cop out or just jumps into another talking point. He's not withstanding the test of time.

[Rand]

Kaine has brought up the key points in this campaign--taxes, immigration, Donald's insults and discrimination toward women, Hispanics, and Muslims--and nothing Pence has said will quell voters' opinions on those. Pence has maintained his composure, which is a plus, but nothing he has said will undo Hillary's massive gains since the first debate.

[Mike88]

Fighting ISIS online recruting: Pence response: "Hillary used a private server" Really??

[Pyro]

90% of this debate has been about fear and terrorism.

[Fargobison]

Pence is probably winning but he has been drug down by Trump. Nobody will remember this debate after tonight, nothing really memorable has happened.

[Gass3268]

Pence was up in the beginning, but the tide has turned to a narrow Kaine lead. Agreed that it won't matter at all.

[yourelection]

Kaine has brought up the key points in this campaign--taxes, immigration, Donald's insults and discrimination toward women, Hispanics, and Muslims--and nothing Pence has said will quell voters' opinions on those. Pence has maintained his composure, which is a plus, but nothing he has said will undo Hillary's massive gains since the first debate.

Maintaining composure should not be underestimated.

[GeorgiaModerate]

So far, Pence is ahead on demeanor, Kaine on content IMO.  Haven't seen anything that will move the needle in this race.

[heatcharger]

Who's winning on substance? Kaine
Who's winning on polish and demeanor? Pence

I'm afraid the media is gonna eat up the latter.

[Gass3268]

Pence is probably winning but he has been drug down by Trump. Nobody will remember this debate after tonight, nothing really memorable has happened.

I feel like Pence's reluctance to actually defend Trump will be the biggest talking point out of tonight, but again it won't matter. Sunday is the main show.

[Kleine Scheiße]

what's aleppo

[kyc0705]

This debate is awful for everyone involved.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Taxes means Trump won't rebuild the military. Ok

The connection is tenuous, but it's something that's likely to resonate with many voters.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Kaine is getting angry again

[Bojack Horseman]

This poor moderator has absolutely no control over what's rapidly turning into a s**tshow.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

Kaine bringing it home in the second half; just like Madame President!

[Gass3268]

Putin is a "small and bullying leader?" I think Trump disagrees with that Governor Pence.

There is almost no consistency between Trump and Pence on the issues.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Once again, Pence seems like he's lobbing a softball by talking up Russia as the enemy, given Trump's praise for Putin.

[Dr. Arch]

Great. Now he's bringing Russian proverbs into an American VP Debate. That's gonna play well.

[Blue3]

Pence is either refusing to defend Trump, or lying about what Trump said as his only defense of him.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Putin is a "small and bullying leader?" I think Trump disagrees with that Governor Pence.

There is almost no consistency between Trump and Pence on the issues.

This is why I feel 110% sympathetic to Kaine's obvious frustration, sitting next to a person that has basically invented an alternate reality top of the ticket that supposedly says the exact opposite of things that are on tape.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Kaine needs to really stop interrupting.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

what's aleppo

Why isn't your avatar Libertarian?

[JerryArkansas]

At this point Kaine dgaf about what he looks like.  He is there to defend and attack.  Shouldn't do it, but it is different.

[Yank2133]

Pence is either refusing to defend Trump, or lying about what Trump said as his only defense of him.

He is trying to save his own political neck.