Opinion of Aaron Burr

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An American hero.

[Antonio the Sixth]

FF for saving us from Hamilton.

[SWE]

An abolitionist, feminist, and champion of the rights of immigrants and the poor? Solid FF, and that's not even taking into account that he brought Hamilton to justice!

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Murderer of a true patriot. HP.

[rpryor03]

Talk less, smile more!

[Kingpoleon]

The only good thing he did was kill Hamilton, a known ambitious monarchist.

[The Dowager Mod]

Traitor.

[RINO Tom]

Murderer of a true patriot. HP.

[HisGrace]

A traitor who tried to steal a presidential election. I don't like Hamilton but not to the point of wanting him to die, so that's not a plus for him either.

[SWE]

tried to steal a presidential election.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Murderer of a true patriot. HP.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Traitor.

[President Johnson]

Murderer of a true patriot. HP.

[PresidentSamTilden]

HP. Killed Hamilton, tried to snake a presidential election, and take Louisiana away from the US for personal gain. Total bum

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Murderer of a true patriot. HP.

Not that Hamilton was a saint either, but yeah, Burr's a definite piece of used bumwipe.

[SWE]

HP. Killed Hamilton, tried to snake a presidential election, and take Louisiana away from the US for personal gain. Total bum

Anyone want to clue me in on what this is referring to?

[Famous Mortimer]

I like Hamilton but Burr was against slavery so that kind of trumps all other issues.

[RINO Tom]

I like Hamilton but Burr was against slavery so that kind of trumps all other issues.

So was Hamilton, and Burr murdered him!

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

HP. Killed Hamilton, tried to snake a presidential election, and take Louisiana away from the US for personal gain. Total bum

Anyone want to clue me in on what this is referring to?

I assume you're familiar with the way the electoral college worked prior to the 12th amendment? The voters who backed the Republican ticket in 1800 intended for Jefferson to become president and Burr to become vice president. The plan was for the Republican electors to support Jefferson and Burr equally; Burr would then step aside and allow Jefferson to become president. When push came to shove, however, Burr instead chose to remain in the race in hopes that Congressional Federalists would elect him instead. Had he succeeded, it would have been in spite of the will of the voters, who clearly had intended to elect Jefferson.

Technically, Burr's actions were in keeping with the Constitution, but they were certainly not in keeping with the way he had represented his candidacy to the people who voted for him. It would be as if the Democratic electors had all voted for Dick Cheney in 2008; technically legal, but hardly honest.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

HP. Killed Hamilton, tried to snake a presidential election, and take Louisiana away from the US for personal gain. Total bum

Anyone want to clue me in on what this is referring to?

I assume you're familiar with the way the electoral college worked prior to the 12th amendment? The voters who backed the Republican ticket in 1800 intended for Jefferson to become president and Burr to become vice president. The plan was for the Republican electors to support Jefferson and Burr equally; Burr would then step aside and allow Jefferson to become president. When push came to shove, however, Burr instead chose to remain in the race in hopes that Congressional Federalists would elect him instead. Had he succeeded, it would have been in spite of the will of the voters, who clearly had intended to elect Jefferson.

Technically, Burr's actions were in keeping with the Constitution, but they were certainly not in keeping with the way he had represented his candidacy to the people who voted for him. It would be as if the Democratic electors had all voted for Dick Cheney in 2008; technically legal, but hardly honest.

I still don't understand how the pre-Twelfth EC worked very well, myself.

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

Murderer of a true patriot. HP.

[Antonio the Sixth]

HP. Killed Hamilton, tried to snake a presidential election, and take Louisiana away from the US for personal gain. Total bum

Anyone want to clue me in on what this is referring to?

I assume you're familiar with the way the electoral college worked prior to the 12th amendment? The voters who backed the Republican ticket in 1800 intended for Jefferson to become president and Burr to become vice president. The plan was for the Republican electors to support Jefferson and Burr equally; Burr would then step aside and allow Jefferson to become president. When push came to shove, however, Burr instead chose to remain in the race in hopes that Congressional Federalists would elect him instead. Had he succeeded, it would have been in spite of the will of the voters, who clearly had intended to elect Jefferson.

Technically, Burr's actions were in keeping with the Constitution, but they were certainly not in keeping with the way he had represented his candidacy to the people who voted for him. It would be as if the Democratic electors had all voted for Dick Cheney in 2008; technically legal, but hardly honest.

I still don't understand how the pre-Twelfth EC worked very well, myself.

IIRC, each Elector cast two votes. The most voted candidate (assuming they won a majority) became President, and the runner-up (assuming a majority again) Vice-President.

That wasn't very well thought out.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

HP. Killed Hamilton, tried to snake a presidential election, and take Louisiana away from the US for personal gain. Total bum

Anyone want to clue me in on what this is referring to?

I assume you're familiar with the way the electoral college worked prior to the 12th amendment? The voters who backed the Republican ticket in 1800 intended for Jefferson to become president and Burr to become vice president. The plan was for the Republican electors to support Jefferson and Burr equally; Burr would then step aside and allow Jefferson to become president. When push came to shove, however, Burr instead chose to remain in the race in hopes that Congressional Federalists would elect him instead. Had he succeeded, it would have been in spite of the will of the voters, who clearly had intended to elect Jefferson.

Technically, Burr's actions were in keeping with the Constitution, but they were certainly not in keeping with the way he had represented his candidacy to the people who voted for him. It would be as if the Democratic electors had all voted for Dick Cheney in 2008; technically legal, but hardly honest.

I still don't understand how the pre-Twelfth EC worked very well, myself.

IIRC, each Elector cast two votes. The most voted candidate (assuming they won a majority) became President, and the runner-up (assuming a majority again) Vice-President.

That wasn't very well thought out.

Oh, I get the voting system, it's the baroque political jockeying that surrounded it that confuses me.

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don't really understand why are people are saying he murdered Hamilton. They were in a duel after all?

Hamilton did fire his weapon intentionally, and he fired first. But he aimed to miss Burr, sending his ball into the tree above and behind Burr's location. In so doing, he did not withhold his shot, but he did waste it, thereby honoring his pre-duel pledge. Meanwhile, Burr, who did not know about the pledge, did know that a projectile from Hamilton's gun had whizzed past him and crashed into the tree to his rear. According to the principles of the code duello, Burr was perfectly justified in taking deadly aim at Hamilton and firing to kill.
But did he? What is possible, but beyond the reach of the available evidence, is that Burr really missed his target, too, that his own fatal shot, in fact, was accidental

hamilto shot first, burr was fully justified in shooting.

[Antonio the Sixth]

hamilto shot first

Just like Greedo!