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  Is it too late for Trump to pull ahead? (search mode)
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BoAtlantis
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« on: October 05, 2016, 06:08:03 PM »

The primary way Hillary loses enough for Trump to pull ahead is if Assange releases some vicious details, solely about her. If he had anything game-changing though, he would have released it by now. Absentee/early votes already started. Even if he releases, MSM other than FOX news may give it only one day cycle and just bury it.
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2016, 06:51:33 PM »

Here's a followup question. Has a candidate ever recovered from this kind of deficit this late in the election season and won?

If I remember correctly, Bush was leading Gore pretty big after the first debate.

Then Gore closed the gap steadily and fell short anyway but the point being, anything can happen.
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2016, 10:14:16 PM »

This thread is based on an assumption that Donald Trump is behind. That is merely an assumption. Several current polls place Donald Trump in the lead. The LA Times tracker has given him a small but persistent lead. It's methodology is different than most polls. If it's methodology is correct, Trump may very well be in the lead. If it is flawed, then, maybe Donald Trump is currently behind. In 2012, the Times tracker was claimed to be an outlier. Turns out it projected Obama's final margin. Salt to taste.

The problem about LA times tracker is that they ask for people's self-reported votes in 2012 and use 26% of Obama voters and 23% of Romney voters sample (close to the final share of 52-47%) and then ask who they would vote for while assuming their sample is still representative of the population.

Since humans have a bias toward claiming "I voted for the winner", and some suffer from bad memory, that would overweigh Republicans in their samples. Essentially, some people that claim they voted for Obama probably were Romney voters.

Most scientific online polls with traditional weighting have Hillary ahead.

LA Times last poll in 2012 was in August. I'm not sure how they can claim they got their margin in 2012 exactly correct. They had Obama +2 and the final margin was +3.9.

I doubt they used the same method back then. The August 2012 poll says they teamed up with Greenberg Rosner, a Democratic pollster. Greenberg does not use tracking method.
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