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« on: October 08, 2016, 02:34:14 PM »

After the Trump Tapes, how far will Trump drop in the polls?
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2016, 02:34:51 PM »

What percent of the electorate is his cult?
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2016, 02:35:59 PM »

This will be the true test of his floor
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2016, 02:37:10 PM »

Before this, the popular vote was expected to be split about 48% for Clinton, and 44% for Trump.

After this, I would expect it would be about 50% for Clinton, and 39% for Trump.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2016, 02:37:22 PM »

I hope Clinton doesn't blow the debate.

I want a landslide.

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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2016, 02:39:02 PM »

Mid 30's, the basket of deplorables will never leave him.
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2016, 02:40:21 PM »

I hope Clinton doesn't blow the debate.

I want a landslide.


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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2016, 02:40:48 PM »

Mid 30's, the basket of deplorables will never leave him.

More like the Basket of Abominations.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2016, 02:42:20 PM »

High 30s, but it won't show up in the polls for a few days.
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2016, 03:02:48 PM »

High 30s, but it won't show up in the polls for a few days.
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2016, 03:05:31 PM »

Clinton up another five points in Lott-Stossel: https://electionbettingodds.com Georgia rated only 60% likely to go to Trump. Arizona lost.
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2016, 04:11:55 PM »

Good question. No idea. Cult is out in full force circling the wagons, although interestingly Cruz has backed away from Trump again.
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2016, 07:04:00 PM »

I think the high 30s is Trump's floor.  Unfortunately, it is possible he might recover into the low 40s, but certainly no better than that.  He's certainly not getting 45% now.
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2016, 07:04:51 PM »

I think the high 30s is Trump's floor.  Unfortunately, it is possible he might recover into the low 40s, but certainly no better than that.  He's certainly not getting 45% now.

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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2016, 08:03:01 PM »

Tough to say. Whats the question?  How far do the tapes themselves drop him,  OR the tapes plus the super high profile response he will have in the debate.  The two will never be able to be disintangled. So only this epic 3 day tapes to debate period will ever get a true measurement.   

His bottom will be 39 or thirty eight if he goves a decent performance down to a temporary drop to 35 if he lights himself on fire.
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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2016, 08:15:45 PM »

Probably 48 (Clinton)-38(Trump)-10(Johnson)-4(Other) in the poll averages.
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2016, 08:38:03 PM »

What percent of the electorate is his cult?

Hard to tell.  He's had 3 groups backing him:

his cultists,

the terminal Clinton Dementia Syndrome sufferers, and,

and unthinking party loyalists.


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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2016, 08:46:22 PM »

I believe about as far as he did after the gold star scandal in August...About 7 points RCP below Clinton.
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2016, 08:51:53 PM »

Trump dropped to 32-34% favorable ratings in the post debate Gallup and You Guv polls (he was still at 40% in the Fox 'News' poll.) 

I can't see Trump's favorables dropping much further, but he had always had higher support than favorables.

I can see his Presidential poll numbers dropping to pretty much only those who are favorable to him.  So,  I can see him fall to the 30-35% range, though likely closer to 35%.
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2016, 08:59:28 PM »

I cant remember what Atlas member had posted numerous times over the last 120 days or so, that trump is "automatically" getting 45%.
That the orange slug could not get less than 45 % ... period ! It was trump's solid floor.
Well, something tells me that this "45% floor" just evaporated.
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2016, 09:03:36 PM »

I cant remember what Atlas member had posted numerous times over the last 120 days or so, that trump is "automatically" getting 45%.
That the orange slug could not get less than 45 % ... period ! It was trump's solid floor.
Well, something tells me that this "45% floor" just evaporated.

Trump is on the Down escalator.
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2016, 09:04:53 PM »

He seems to have a polling ceiling of 45%. It may fall down to around 42%, with Clinton finally crossing 50% in regular polls.
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2016, 09:07:20 PM »
« Edited: October 08, 2016, 09:11:03 PM by ProudModerate2 »

Mid 30's, the basket of deplorables will never leave him.

More like the Basket of Abominations.

I have an idea .... we will call them The Basket of Abominable Deplorables.
(Now try and say that 3 times fast. LOL.)
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2016, 09:17:49 PM »

Mid 30's, the basket of deplorables will never leave him.

More like the Basket of Abominations.

I have an idea .... we will call them The Basket of Abominable Deplorables.
(Now try and say that 3 times fast. LOL.)

or simply BAD people.
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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2016, 09:56:38 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks this will only marginally move the polls? Maybe I'm just jaded by this inexplicable election, but those who are supporting Trump are largely going to stick with him. There will be some movement on the margins and a pre-Friday 6 point lead for Hillary might become 8. If the GOP totally disowns Trump, which looks like is occurring, it might become 10 due to lower enthusiasm/turnout. I just don't see that many minds being changed though.

Sure, a lot of Republican politicians are jumping ship but they already knew this ship was going to sink even before these comments. These comments just give them an excellent excuse to distance themselves from him, and run on a message of being a check on Hillary. This doesn't mean the GOP base feels any different today. Hell, just see how Heck and Ryan were greeted by GOP voters today. That core 40-42% of the population is sticking with him.
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