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Question: Which country do you view more favorably?
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« on: October 08, 2016, 08:16:45 PM »

Armenia easily.
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2016, 08:57:49 PM »

^^^^

Perhaps the only geopolitical controversy where Russia is on the right side.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2016, 09:32:38 AM »

Azerbaijan.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2016, 09:44:02 AM »

Both are HC, but Armenia's government is slightly less horrible.
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2016, 10:49:25 AM »

Azerbaijan when it comes to the Nagorno-Karabakh War and its complexities and also when it comes to protecting western counter-terrorism interests. The Azeris have been a good asset in this regard. They play a good mediating role w/ Turkey and also w/ Iran.

I also support lifting the ban on U.S. aid to Azerbaijan. I think the Armenian lobby is being ridiculous in continuing to support this archaic aid blockage.


That being said, I don't like or tolerate Azerbaijan's denial of the Armenian Genocide. I think the Azeris can find a way to not be obnoxious on this issue but choose to do so anyways to spite Armenia.
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2016, 10:51:42 AM »

^^^^

Perhaps the only geopolitical controversy where Russia is on the right side.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/04/in-nagorno-karabakh-a-bloody-new-war-with-putin-on-both-sides.html

Not really. Russia, like in all geopolitical situations, plays both sides.
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2017, 10:41:09 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2017, 11:02:54 AM »

Azerbaijan when it comes to the Nagorno-Karabakh War and its complexities and also when it comes to protecting western counter-terrorism interests. The Azeris have been a good asset in this regard. They play a good mediating role w/ Turkey and also w/ Iran.

I also support lifting the ban on U.S. aid to Azerbaijan. I think the Armenian lobby is being ridiculous in continuing to support this archaic aid blockage.


That being said, I don't like or tolerate Azerbaijan's denial of the Armenian Genocide. I think the Azeris can find a way to not be obnoxious on this issue but choose to do so anyways to spite Armenia.
I agree with this.
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2017, 11:29:27 AM »

Azerbaijan
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2017, 11:43:06 AM »

Armenia is Christian, so them.
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2017, 11:49:15 AM »

Azerbaijan is a secular, moderate Muslim country that we need more of, so them.
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2017, 11:51:12 AM »

Maybe I'm taking too much of a cue from Freedom House rankings and Pew surveys, but I had come to prefer Armenia to the undemocratic petrostate.
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2017, 11:55:32 AM »

Georgia's better than both of them, but I voted Azerbaijan. A secular Muslim kleptocracy is better than Armenia, whose territorial ambitions, emboldened by Russia, destabilize the region.
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2017, 12:58:05 PM »


Thia is repulsive.

As for the question, lean Armenia though I partially agree with what Sunrise said. With that said, Azerbaijan can't really afford to anger Turkey, and recognizing the Armenian genocide would do just that.
I also agree with Kamala that Georgia is far better than both of them, true FF country now that Emperor Tiechewer is no longer in power.
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2017, 08:15:23 PM »

Armenia are in some ways the original hipster Christians-they were Christian before it was cool. Literally. And have been bullied, oppressed and suffered the brunt of genocide for almost 1700 years as a result, whether it be from various pagans, the Caliphate, the Ottomans, the Young Turks and the Soviet Union. And now the Azeris and their ethnic cleansing ambitions.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2017, 02:45:37 PM »

Azerbaijan when it comes to the Nagorno-Karabakh War and its complexities and also when it comes to protecting western counter-terrorism interests. The Azeris have been a good asset in this regard. They play a good mediating role w/ Turkey and also w/ Iran.

I also support lifting the ban on U.S. aid to Azerbaijan. I think the Armenian lobby is being ridiculous in continuing to support this archaic aid blockage.


That being said, I don't like or tolerate Azerbaijan's denial of the Armenian Genocide. I think the Azeris can find a way to not be obnoxious on this issue but choose to do so anyways to spite Armenia.

I still believe every word of this.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2017, 08:51:40 PM »

Armenia has a real history. Did the Roman Empire ever have Azeri generals? Doubt it. 
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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2017, 12:19:36 AM »

Azerbaijan when it comes to the Nagorno-Karabakh War and its complexities and also when it comes to protecting western counter-terrorism interests. The Azeris have been a good asset in this regard. They play a good mediating role w/ Turkey and also w/ Iran.

I also support lifting the ban on U.S. aid to Azerbaijan. I think the Armenian lobby is being ridiculous in continuing to support this archaic aid blockage.


That being said, I don't like or tolerate Azerbaijan's denial of the Armenian Genocide. I think the Azeris can find a way to not be obnoxious on this issue but choose to do so anyways to spite Armenia.
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2017, 12:02:21 PM »

Yerevan>Baku
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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2017, 01:45:47 PM »

Armenia because I'm of Armenian descent. But both countries have horrible/corrupt governments.
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2017, 04:29:20 PM »


Given that Baku is considered by many to be one of the most polluted cities in the world....the bar isnt set that high.
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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2017, 05:10:56 PM »


Given that Baku is considered by many to be one of the most polluted cities in the world....the bar isnt set that high.

Speaking of which, Yerevan itself is pretty polluted as well, as I recall.
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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2017, 05:13:04 PM »

Azeri women are worth living in Baku for.
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2017, 12:20:05 AM »

Armenia famous for Kardashians and a Turkish genocide over the autocratic oil kingdom which was one of the implied settings of The World Is Not Enough and host of the newest F1 race - a picturesque jaunt through new and old Baku. It's no Monaco but it's better than the previously added Sochi Autodrom.
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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2017, 07:42:00 PM »

Lean Armenia. I believe the people of Nagorno-Karabakh have a legitimate right to be an independent country (or a part of Armenia) if they so desire and while the status quo isn't great, it's likely better than it would be if the region were completely controlled by Azerbaijan. Personally, I think the best case scenario would be for Nagorno-Karabakh to be annexed to Armenia (who are we kidding, there are pretty much no Azeris left there these days and if put to a legitimate vote, over 95% would vote for union with Armenia), give some sort of reparation to people displaced from the war, allow for free access between the rest of Azerbaijan and Nakhchivan, and guarantee that Azeris in Armenia and Armenians in Azerbaijan are protected minorities.
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