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« on: October 09, 2016, 07:29:19 AM »

Just a bit of fun, because I don't think this is going to happen.

If Trump had a total, Goldwater/Mondale/McGovern-style collapse, which states would he win? Even Goldwater managed to win six states. Which states are absolutely safe for Trump, no matter what?
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2016, 07:33:28 AM »

Wyoming, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Idaho, Alabama, Arkansas
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2016, 07:36:30 AM »

Wyoming, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Idaho, Alabama, Arkansas

Mississippi?
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2016, 08:44:53 AM »


Mississippi is something like 38% black, and Trump's fall would come mostly from a drop in white turnout and/or whites voting Hillary/Johnson. Therefore, Mississippi would fall fairly quickly.
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2016, 08:49:26 AM »

Oklahoma, Alabama, West Virginia, Mississippi, Louisiana, NE-03
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2016, 08:52:53 AM »

Oklahoma, Alabama, West Virginia, Mississippi, Louisiana, NE-03

Mississippi and Louisiana before Nebraska AL, Wyoming, and Idaho? What?
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2016, 08:57:43 AM »

Oklahoma, Alabama, West Virginia, Mississippi, Louisiana, NE-03

Mississippi and Louisiana before Nebraska AL, Wyoming, and Idaho? What?

It's strange.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2016, 09:31:27 AM »

These would be the "Titanium R" states.



Why ND over KS?
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2016, 09:33:36 AM »

Polls in Kansas (and Mississippi) have been close.
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2016, 09:35:44 AM »


Kansas polls have been decently close and their governor is very unpopular. North Dakota received an influx of conservatives and became more conservative thanks to the oil boom
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2016, 09:36:06 AM »

West Virginia, Alabama
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2016, 10:30:14 AM »


Kansas polls have been decently close and their governor is very unpopular. North Dakota received an influx of conservatives and became more conservative thanks to the oil boom

I knew Brownback was unpopular, but I didn't think the presidential polls would be close in KS (I've been turned off a LOT this race)
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2016, 10:30:44 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2016, 11:07:59 AM »

These would be the "Titanium R" states.



This plus Kentucky, Arkansas, and Tennessee and minus Idaho (a crazy scenario where Mormons abandon Trump en masse)
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2016, 11:11:48 AM »

With no GOTV support from the Republican Party and other scandals coming up in the next month, I could see something along these lines:

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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2016, 11:19:30 AM »

Some of you seriously overestimate the Democrats' chances in rural areas. In many places, there isn't an even organized party in rural counties. The losses have been massive, which would seriously impact their chances at winning rural states. SD I think would be a possible exception though.
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2016, 11:44:12 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2016, 01:06:02 PM »
« Edited: October 09, 2016, 01:15:50 PM by Eleven »

Honestly, Trump could snatch a live baby from the arms of an audience member at the Town Hall, wring its neck, and eat its brains, and he'd still win McCain-AZ-GA-SC-TX, because "they'd just lock Trump up and then we'd get Pence." Or, "Trump ain't winning anyway, but damned if I'm voting for that she-devil."
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2016, 01:45:14 PM »

Wyoming, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Idaho, Alabama, Arkansas
Nebraska? Kentucky? Tennessee?
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2016, 01:47:48 PM »

North Dakota has definitely become way more conservative than South Dakota in recent years, but I still wouldn't characterize it as Titanium R in the same way as, say, Wyoming or Oklahoma.
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2016, 03:44:06 PM »

Is it still possible for such a vulger deranged person to win even a single state? Why?
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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2016, 12:21:19 AM »

West Virginia, Oklahoma, Wyoming and NE-03
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2016, 12:25:46 AM »

Is it still possible for such a vulger deranged person to win even a single state? Why?

Because everyone voting Trump knows he's not winning anyway, and they're just casting a protest vote against Hillary.
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2016, 02:00:14 AM »

North Dakota has definitely become way more conservative than South Dakota in recent years, but I still wouldn't characterize it as Titanium R in the same way as, say, Wyoming or Oklahoma.

I thought the Dakotas were basically mirror images of one another. They vote so similarly close in presidential elections. I know South Dakota has a few more Native Americans and North Dakota has the Bakken (not to mention that North Dakota has the highest number of churches/religious adherents per capita than any other state), but I think if South Dakota goes blue/Atlas red, North Dakota does as well.

My list of Titanium Meltdown Trump states would be Idaho, Wyoming, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Alabama, Kansas (not jumping on the #BattlegroundKansas bandwagon because of 2014), Nebraska, and the Dakotas.
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2016, 08:33:36 AM »

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