Washington University POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**

[Devout Centrist]

Low-info voters will think Trump won. I'm confident of that

Please no not that slur.

[Clyde1998]

Trump is coming across very poorly, IMO. Seems more interested in attacking Clinton, than actually talking about policy.

[Blair]

Clinton's best answer

[musicblind]

Trump is doing horribly.

He has committed the following MAJOR no-nos.

1.) He has poor blocking.

2.) He has made false statements multiple times.

3.) He has argued with the moderators.

4.) He has used the Tu Quequo argumentative fallacy.

5.) He has interrupted Clinton far more than she has him (Tim Kaine's biggest downfall)

6.) He admitted to not paying any federal income taxes.

7.) He has said he disagrees with his own running mate.

8.) He brought this into the gutter with the Bill Clinton claims. He was warned not to, but did.

9.) He has brought up LITERAL conspiracy theories.

10.) He called his candidate THE DEVIL. WTF?

11.) He just interrupted the moderators, AGAIN.

12.) He has used several moral equivallence fallacies. They teach you this in competitive debating.


All of the above are FACTS. How can anyone on here pretend that he is winning the debate?

[Hammy]

I'm watching this at a Hillary bar. When Trump contradicted Pence and started arguing with the moderators, the whole place erupted in joy.

LOL wut

I had this image of a Clinton-themed bar when I read that.

[Green Line]

I do think Trump has been winning most of the debate.  It started out horrible for him.  The first 20 minutes were cringe worthy.  Everything else has been a Trump win in my opinion.

[Saint Milei]

Hillary definitely looks more professional, but she isnt saying much. Trump looks bad because hes acting like Kaine. Meh hillary is winning

[HAnnA MArin County]

I do think Trump has been winning most of the debate.  It started out horrible for him.  The first 20 minutes were cringe worthy.  Everything else has been a Trump win in my opinion.

LMAO.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Trump is winning with the people who he's been winning this whole time -- white, working-class folks who think no one's paying attention to their problems. He's not winning with everyone else.

[morgieb]

Im sorry, who the hell thinks Trump is doing better? Hillary is slightly off her game but Trump is just as terrible.

The kindest thing you can say about Trump is that he's winning on expectations. On substance Hillary is still clearly winning.

[Mr. Smith]

Im sorry, who the hell thinks Trump is doing better? Hillary is slightly off her game but Trump is just as terrible.

And that's all it'll take.

I'm anti-Trump, but he's KILLING it. Wow. He's pulling off a Reagan 1980.

I watched that debate when it happened, and no he isn't, by a long shot.  He's only looking better this time because he had such a low bar of expectations after his first performance.  

Reagan 1980 was seen as unstable and dangerous, and he came across as calm and presidential. Trump's demeanor is the right mix of calm, deliberate, and aggressive. He is pounding Clinton on policy and her record. Wow.

Just delete your account.

Why? He ain't wrong.


Hillary talking about "the black kid worrying about being deported to Ethiopia" and children listen is waay too close to Carter's "my daughter's big concern is nukes" for my liking.

[Green Line]

I do think Trump has been winning most of the debate.  It started out horrible for him.  The first 20 minutes were cringe worthy.  Everything else has been a Trump win in my opinion.

LMAO.

K?  Sorry I'm not towing the Clinton line on here.  Seriously, I'm voting for Hillary, but the circle-jerk here is pathetic.

[SPQR]

Trump is winning with the people who he's been winning this whole time -- white, working-class folks who think no one's paying attention to their problems. He's not winning with everyone else.

This.
It's hard to see how his attempts at reaching minorities and Bernie voters can work.

[Fargobison]

Trump just said that NAFTA was "probably the worst trade deal in the history of the world". He said that about the Iran deal earlier in the debate...

Can he even name another trade deal not named NAFTA?

[Buzz]

I do think Trump has been winning most of the debate.  It started out horrible for him.  The first 20 minutes were cringe worthy.  Everything else has been a Trump win in my opinion.

agree completely

[JerryArkansas]

I do think Trump has been winning most of the debate.  It started out horrible for him.  The first 20 minutes were cringe worthy.  Everything else has been a Trump win in my opinion.

LMAO.

K?  Sorry I'm not towing the Clinton-line on here.  Seriously, I'm voting for Hillary, but the circle-jerk here is pathetic.

The man is unhinged.  You think that is winning? 

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

"She has tremendous hate in her heart".  That's it, you nailed it Trump. 

[kyc0705]

I'm anti-Trump, but he's KILLING it. Wow. He's pulling off a Reagan 1980.

[Fargobison]

I do think Trump has been winning most of the debate.  It started out horrible for him.  The first 20 minutes were cringe worthy.  Everything else has been a Trump win in my opinion.

He started horrible, got better but than tanked on foreign policy bigly.

[DrScholl]

Im sorry, who the hell thinks Trump is doing better? Hillary is slightly off her game but Trump is just as terrible.

And that's all it'll take.

I'm anti-Trump, but he's KILLING it. Wow. He's pulling off a Reagan 1980.

I watched that debate when it happened, and no he isn't, by a long shot.  He's only looking better this time because he had such a low bar of expectations after his first performance.  

Reagan 1980 was seen as unstable and dangerous, and he came across as calm and presidential. Trump's demeanor is the right mix of calm, deliberate, and aggressive. He is pounding Clinton on policy and her record. Wow.

Just delete your account.

Why? He ain't wrong.

Trump is nowhere close to being Reagan. Reagan was not a deranged, angry psycho on cocaine.

[Arbitrage1980]

Trump is doing horribly.

He has committed the following MAJOR no-nos.

1.) He has poor blocking.

2.) He has made false statements multiple times.

3.) He has argued with the moderators.

4.) He has used the Tu Quequo argumentative fallacy.

5.) He has interrupted Clinton far more than she has him (Tim Kaine's biggest downfall)

6.) He admitted to not paying any federal income taxes.

7.) He has said he disagrees with his own running mate.

8.) He brought this into the gutter with the Bill Clinton claims. He was warned not to, but did.

9.) He has brought up LITERAL conspiracy theories.

10.) He called his candidate THE DEVIL. WTF?


All of the above are FACTS. How can anyone on here pretend that he is winning the debate?

Voters don't care about policy specifics. They are moved by demeanor, tone, dominance, one-liners, and overall effectiveness. Trump has been on-point in slamming Hillary with regards to her corruption, e-mails, lies, and failed record.

[MasterJedi]

"She has tremendous hate in her heart".  That's it, you nailed it Trump. 

He's getting laughed at with that comment since everyone knows he his the one with the unbeating heart.

[Green Line]

I do think Trump has been winning most of the debate.  It started out horrible for him.  The first 20 minutes were cringe worthy.  Everything else has been a Trump win in my opinion.

LMAO.

K?  Sorry I'm not towing the Clinton-line on here.  Seriously, I'm voting for Hillary, but the circle-jerk here is pathetic.

The man is unhinged.  You think that is winning? 

Yeah, for at least the last 45 mins.  Hillary has talked around every question, every issue.  Whatever though, I already know you're about to throw some personal attacks and f bombs my way!

[MasterJedi]

I do think Trump has been winning most of the debate.  It started out horrible for him.  The first 20 minutes were cringe worthy.  Everything else has been a Trump win in my opinion.

LMAO.

K?  Sorry I'm not towing the Clinton-line on here.  Seriously, I'm voting for Hillary, but the circle-jerk here is pathetic.

The man is unhinged.  You think that is winning? 

Yeah, for at least the last 45 mins.  Hillary has talked around every question, every issue.  Whatever though, I already know you're about to throw some personal attacks and f bombs my way!

What? Trump hasn't actually answered a question all night. Just attacks Hillary and rambles about random unrelated things.

[JerryArkansas]

I do think Trump has been winning most of the debate.  It started out horrible for him.  The first 20 minutes were cringe worthy.  Everything else has been a Trump win in my opinion.

LMAO.

K?  Sorry I'm not towing the Clinton-line on here.  Seriously, I'm voting for Hillary, but the circle-jerk here is pathetic.

The man is unhinged.  You think that is winning? 

Yeah, for at least the last 45 mins.  Hillary has talked around every question, every issue.  Whatever though, I already know you're about to throw some personal attacks and f bombs my way!

I havent seen that, but what ever you think.  You must be right.