Debate 2 Poll, Focus Group, Pundit Reaction Megathread

[IceSpear]

Univision poll of Latino voters...Clinton 92, Trump 8

I assume you mean this viewer/reader online poll...
http://www.univision.com/noticias/elecciones-2016/vota-propuestas-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidencia-estados-unidos-debate

So, not the same as their scientific polls.

Breitbart and Drudge haven't spammed it yet?

[IceSpear]

Univision poll of Latino voters...Clinton 92, Trump 8

I assume you mean this viewer/reader online poll...
http://www.univision.com/noticias/elecciones-2016/vota-propuestas-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidencia-estados-unidos-debate

So, not the same as their scientific polls.

Breitbart and Drudge haven't spammed it yet?

WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN DUDE?

I was posting during the first debate too.

I've just been super busy with work, volunteering, and other obligations.

[IceSpear]

Per Nate Silver (live), YouGov debate poll shows Clinton 47%, Trump 42%

Probably about as good as can be expected considering the pundit consensus seems to be a draw, and spin often matters the most.

[IceSpear]

That CNN poll is legitimately surprising.

I have to wonder if all us white male Atlasians and white male pundits are missing the mark here. Could Trump's interruptions, rudeness, and threats been Lazio moments?

[IceSpear]

That CNN poll is legitimately surprising.

I have to wonder if all us white male Atlasians and white male pundits are missing the mark here. Could Trump's interruptions, rudeness, and threats been Lazio moments?

What I suspect is that women viewed this debate in much larger numbers than men.

As someone on CNN mentioned, football will draw away much more men than women. So it's definitely a possibility.

[IceSpear]

It's also not helpful that he stated Hillary has hate in her heart, that she is the devil and that she should be ashamed of herself. The optics of him standing and her sitting and him telling her that she is a "disgrace" was awful.

He pulled off what Lazio did in 2000.  A big blowhard who seemed to violate her personal space.

I remember reading about how many men saw that moment as a great one for Lazio when it initially happened.

[IceSpear]

Shouldn't debate watchers tend to skew older and whiter (i.e. more Republican?)

Are rock ribbed GOPers (perhaps Cruz supporters) not tuning in or something?

[IceSpear]

58% of the people polled stated that they supported Clinton before the debate.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/09/politics/clinton-wins-debate-but-trump-exceeds-expectations/index.html?sr=twCNN101016clinton-wins-debate-but-trump-exceeds-expectations0353AMStoryLink&linkId=29741868

So basically, it looks like a wash or close to it.

The fact that more Democrats are watching the debate to begin with and are willing to answer their phones indicates that enthusiasm is much better on our side and falling through the floor on theirs

But I thought nobody liked Hillary and nobody was excited and there was no enthusiasm and not a single millennial would vote for her!11!!!

[IceSpear]

CNN POLL

Who won the debate?

Clinton 57%

Trump 34%


Did Trump do better or worse than you expected?

Yes 63%

Worse 21%

Same 15%


Did Clinton do better or worse than you expected?

Better 39%

Worse 26%

Same 34%

Also note: The results Sunday also track closely with watchers' pre-debate preference. Fifty-eight percent of debate watchers said they were supporting Clinton before the debate.


www.cnn.com/2016/10/09/politics/clinton-wins-debate-but-trump-exceeds-expectations/index.html?sr=twCNN101016clinton-wins-debate-but-trump-exceeds-expectations0353AMStoryLink&linkId=29741868

I don't see this moving the needle too much one way or the other.

I wonder how much of that 58% is just the debate audience being inherently more Democratic, and how much was due to the pussygate surge. CNN hasn't done a poll post pussygate unfortunately.