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« on: October 09, 2016, 10:10:16 PM »

Why did Trump say we should be in alliance with Assad and Iran?


What in the world was that about? Was he just vomiting words?
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2016, 10:15:22 PM »

Trump doesn't understand anything that relates to foreign policy, or actually, any domestic policy either.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2016, 10:16:52 PM »

Why did Trump say we should be in alliance with Assad and Iran?


What in the world was that about? Was he just vomiting words?

Find me a more effective way to connect with his base.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2016, 10:18:57 PM »

Because they are killing ISIS and we should be as well
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2016, 10:20:20 PM »

Because hes a fascist who wants to ally with Russia and its proxies

That plus his incoherence
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2016, 10:20:36 PM »

Trump doesn't understand anything that relates to foreign policy, or actually, any domestic policy either.

You could have left it there.
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2016, 10:23:35 PM »

Why did Trump say we should be in alliance with Assad and Iran?


What in the world was that about? Was he just vomiting words?

Talking like this about Iran will hurt him with his base. At least should.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2016, 10:27:59 PM »

Because they are killing ISIS and we should be as well
Then why does he say the deal with Iran is the WORST. DEAL. EVER. (or was that NAFTA?)
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2016, 10:29:27 PM »

Because he's an idiot.
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2016, 11:31:59 PM »

Because hes a fascist who wants to ally with Russia and its proxies

That plus his incoherence

What do you think of the bulk of socialists who are pro-russian?
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2016, 11:33:29 PM »

Because he is an idiot.
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2016, 11:35:21 PM »
« Edited: October 09, 2016, 11:38:24 PM by Dabeav »

Why not? Defeat ISIS and deal with the differences after, hopefully diplomatically.  I agree with Trump - I rather be friends with Russia or Iran than the last 30-50 years of hostility that hasn't got us anything but more enemies.

Also it's not a full alliance: it's just an alliance against a common enemy.  Once that's cleaned up, work on the future of trade and friendship and not further military alliances.
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2016, 11:50:52 PM »

Why did Trump say we should be in alliance with Assad and Iran?


What in the world was that about? Was he just vomiting words?

Talking like this about Iran will hurt him with his base. At least should.
Not really. His base doesn't know sh**t either.
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2016, 11:59:04 PM »

Why not? Defeat ISIS and deal with the differences after, hopefully diplomatically.  I agree with Trump - I rather be friends with Russia or Iran than the last 30-50 years of hostility that hasn't got us anything but more enemies.

Also it's not a full alliance: it's just an alliance against a common enemy.  Once that's cleaned up, work on the future of trade and friendship and not further military alliances.
Because he also says dealing with Iran is the worst thing in world history. It's the nonsense. Of course everyone wishes we could all get along.

And Russia is not targeting ISIS. Neither is Assad, really. They're targeting the other rebels, and ISIS will be the last standing because if they take out ISIS first then the rest of the world will tell them to stop.
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2016, 12:06:05 AM »

Why did Trump say we should be in alliance with Assad and Iran?


What in the world was that about? Was he just vomiting words?

Talking like this about Iran will hurt him with his base. At least should.
Not really. His base doesn't know sh**t either.

The core republican base is basically jacksonian, only the elites are neocons. For instance, most republicans would still back rand paul if he were the nominee, minus some defectors (mainly elites + ideological types), similar to many of the people that are opposing Trump now, except he would keep the conservative/cruz type voters under-lock.

Wilsonianism  (fighting for 'human rights' abroad, etc.) has traditionally been a democratic issue, only interrupted by carter's pacifism.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/08/18/the_jacksonian_foreign_policy_option_110948.html
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2016, 12:08:50 AM »

Because they are killing ISIS and we should be as well
Even if that was true, trump also said the Iran deal was a terrible idea, that consistency from him
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2016, 12:18:37 AM »

Because they are killing ISIS and we should be as well
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2016, 12:21:48 AM »

Because they are killing ISIS and we should be as well
Even if that was true, trump also said the Iran deal was a terrible idea, that consistency from him

That deal was done and Iran has already used the money it got through that deal to become a regional power. Nothing can be done about it any more. We need to accept the new reality that we have to work with Iran too.
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2016, 12:25:02 AM »

Because they are killing ISIS and we should be as well
Even if that was true, trump also said the Iran deal was a terrible idea, that consistency from him

That deal was done and Iran has already used the money it got through that deal to become a regional power. Nothing can be done about it any more. We need to accept the new reality that we have to work with Iran too.

Do we? but besides that trump has called for tearing that deal up.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2016, 12:25:53 AM »

Because they are killing ISIS and we should be as well
Even if that was true, trump also said the Iran deal was a terrible idea, that consistency from him

That deal was done and Iran has already used the money it got through that deal to become a regional power. Nothing can be done about it any more. We need to accept the new reality that we have to work with Iran too.


This^^ It was a bad deal.  I think we could've did better, but it is after the fact now.
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2016, 01:57:40 AM »

Because they are killing ISIS and we should be as well
Then why does he say the deal with Iran is the WORST. DEAL. EVER. (or was that NAFTA?)

That's the point,  first he denounces Iran as a terror state, slams deal with Iran and then says he will collaborate with it.
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