Is the "Trump moment" a harbinger of the next challenge to Liberalism?

[Blue3]

This is a good article on the "Trump moment" currently happening in the US and around the world, how it might be indicating that people are upset about the weaknesses of Liberalism and challenging it (like how WWI, WWII, the Cold War all challenged it, although Liberalism overcame imperialism and fascism in the past, and overcame communism while taking a few best practices from it like more social services), and while Trumpism is a void right now with no coherent ideology now (other than throwbacks to nationalism or religious fundamentalism), this could be a harbinger of a new ideology to come and challenge Liberalism (with the author speculating it might be the Silicon Valley way of delegating more and more to AI).




http://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/does-trumps-rise-mean-liberalisms-end

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Our algorithms aren't good enough for that yet, and probably won't be for another generation.

[Person Man]

Another generation is what? 2040 or 2050? By then, the new struggle against liberalism and this new form of tyranny will be ending and will probably then use AI the same way that Liberalism used Globalism in the 70s to 2000s.

Nihilistic Burlesque sounds like a band or anime name.

Though this talk of AI and the unraveling of Liberalism to sub-Fascism sounds a lot like the average gamergater or 4channers idea of the future.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Trump, for all his flaws, has risen in response to real discontent people have with the nature of western liberalism today. Brexit was also a consequence of this real discontent. Regardless of the outcome of this election, discounting the anger of the people would be a grave mistake.

[PresidentSamTilden]

     Trump, for all his flaws, has risen in response to real discontent people have with the nature of western liberalism today. Brexit was also a consequence of this real discontent. Regardless of the outcome of this election, discounting the anger of the people would be a grave mistake.

I agree in spirit. But in a practical sense, how can this anger be placated? It's tough to even understand what a lot of these groups want.

Take Trump's coalition as an example. People are very upset at the government and establishment for...what? Economic growth being slow? Electing an African American president? Terrorism? Trade deals that benefit some people over others?

It seems like there are a ton of reasons, most of which can't be "solved" easily, if at all. The anger and resentment just seems to build on itself. And then, half the time, people turn around and vote against their own best interests.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Trump, for all his flaws, has risen in response to real discontent people have with the nature of western liberalism today. Brexit was also a consequence of this real discontent. Regardless of the outcome of this election, discounting the anger of the people would be a grave mistake.

I agree in spirit. But in a practical sense, how can this anger be placated? It's tough to even understand what a lot of these groups want.

Take Trump's coalition as an example. People are very upset at the government and establishment for...what? Economic growth being slow? Electing an African American president? Terrorism? Trade deals that benefit some people over others?

It seems like there are a ton of reasons, most of which can't be "solved" easily, if at all. The anger and resentment just seems to build on itself. And then, half the time, people turn around and vote against their own best interests.

     I do agree with your concerns here. There are a few disparate ideological groups that turn their ire against "globalism" or "internationalism", with complaints that are similar in some ways and different in others. Bernie Sanders capitalized on a lot of the same discontent, while proposing radically different policy solutions from Donald Trump.

     Overall, I'm not sure what the answer is. My greatest concern is that we don't find an answer and in time an outright radical movement takes power with the intent of tearing everything down.