The Klartext Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, and Deplorable Posts VI

[RI]

No, just no

communism sounds nice in theory...fascism doesn't.

Plenty of things about fascism sound great in theory. Societal order and cohesion, scientific advancement with unified goals, lack of political gridlock and dysfunction, high levels of societal efficiency, business interests made to serve the common good, high levels of communal care for the poor, very little unemployment, etc.

The bad parts of fascism come about in the means... just like in communism.

How is this any worse than saying communism sounds great in theory?

It doesn't. They're both garbage ideologies with zero value that need to be completely annihilated.

It wasn't the point. Praising things such as "cohesion" in fascism as even "theoretically" good is... eh.

As a side note, though, I know it's hard to comprehend for an American, but I'm unable to put communism at the same level with fascism. At least communists, while sucking really bad, didn't plan on annihilating my people and my culture.

To put it bluntly, fascism "in theory" is inherently racist. Communism isn't.

Only Nazism was especially racist. Italian fascism had racial tenets but wasn't built around racial lines. Spanish fascism didn't really have much to do with race.

[JA]

I wasn't aware black turnout was impacted by opinion of Beyonce, didn't seem to help Hillary in Ohio

Black voters care more about Beyoncé in my opinion, that is why they were so vexed when Adele won those Grammy awards. Some of them. Some of them don't care, but once the report comes out, they will turn out against Rock.

[This account no longer in use.]

No, just no

communism sounds nice in theory...fascism doesn't.

Plenty of things about fascism sound great in theory. Societal order and cohesion, scientific advancement with unified goals, lack of political gridlock and dysfunction, high levels of societal efficiency, business interests made to serve the common good, high levels of communal care for the poor, very little unemployment, etc.

The bad parts of fascism come about in the means... just like in communism.

How is this any worse than saying communism sounds great in theory?

It doesn't. They're both garbage ideologies with zero value that need to be completely annihilated.

It wasn't the point. Praising things such as "cohesion" in fascism as even "theoretically" good is... eh.

As a side note, though, I know it's hard to comprehend for an American, but I'm unable to put communism at the same level with fascism. At least communists, while sucking really bad, didn't plan on annihilating my people and my culture.

To put it bluntly, fascism "in theory" is inherently racist. Communism isn't.

Only Nazism was especially racist. Italian fascism had racial tenets but wasn't built around racial lines. Spanish fascism didn't really have much to do with race.

[RI]

No, just no

communism sounds nice in theory...fascism doesn't.

Plenty of things about fascism sound great in theory. Societal order and cohesion, scientific advancement with unified goals, lack of political gridlock and dysfunction, high levels of societal efficiency, business interests made to serve the common good, high levels of communal care for the poor, very little unemployment, etc.

The bad parts of fascism come about in the means... just like in communism.

How is this any worse than saying communism sounds great in theory?

It doesn't. They're both garbage ideologies with zero value that need to be completely annihilated.

It wasn't the point. Praising things such as "cohesion" in fascism as even "theoretically" good is... eh.

As a side note, though, I know it's hard to comprehend for an American, but I'm unable to put communism at the same level with fascism. At least communists, while sucking really bad, didn't plan on annihilating my people and my culture.

To put it bluntly, fascism "in theory" is inherently racist. Communism isn't.

Only Nazism was especially racist. Italian fascism had racial tenets but wasn't built around racial lines. Spanish fascism didn't really have much to do with race.

How about explaining why I'm wrong rather than just quoting me here? AFAIK most forms of fascism were built around nationalist lines rather than racial lines, though overlap exists there, obviously.

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Spanish facism did have racist and anti-Semitic rhetoric? I mean, Franco's gangs cut their teeth on massacring moroccans and built a pretty healthy narrative about how the Spanish peasantry were impure because of moorish descent or whatever. And the entire Spanish right was explicitly anti Semitic back then, to boot.

[Higgs]

Eating meat should definitely be disincentivized by the government.

[Hifly]

This belongs in the "absurd" category -  in the thread below, Antonio has finally come out as a supporter of state intervention to promote religious practices:

Good for them.

[Antonio the Sixth]

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Eating meat should definitely be disincentivized by the government.

MAKE VEGANISM THE LAW, STONE THE MEAT EATERS

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Eating meat should definitely be disincentivized by the government.

MAKE VEGANISM THE LAW, STONE THE MEAT EATERS

I've heard economic/environmental arguments for this.

[Goldwater]

Let me solve this ongoing Eharding-RINO Tom debate on who the real conservatives are: neither of you are real conservatives.  In fact, no one with a negative social score should call themselves a conservative.  In fact, if any of the following are true, you are not a true conservative:

-I think free trade is a net negative for America
-I think abortion should be allowed in most or all cases
-I would rather have unrestricted privacy, even if it compromises public safety
-I believe that there are more than two genders
-I voted for Donald Trump in the primaries
-I did not vote for Donald Trump in the general election
-My social score is below a +5
-My economic score is below a +5

[Santander]

The first part is true, though. If you have a negative social (or economic) score, you cannot call yourself a conservative.

[Maxwell]

Eating meat should definitely be disincentivized by the government.

David's ideology has certainly taken some interesting turns. I can say that because my ideology took a very boring and conventional turn

[Maxwell]

I support this bill on a men's rights basis, not on a "pro-life" (a meaningless word these days) basis.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

I support this bill on a men's rights basis, not on a "pro-life" (a meaningless word these days) basis.

I think that was already posted here.

[Maxwell]

well sh**t it is.

meh, anything from "men's rights" activists deserves double posting in the stupid thread.

[OneJ]

NATO is the last foothold of liberal democracy in the world.

it was without merits before putin made a war-loving imperialist religious superpower out of his country, whose only goal seems to be destroying the EU.

today either you support the NATO or you think defending democracy can be done with words and contracts alone.

-NATO defends militant Islam, not democracy.

You also seem to misunderstand Russian goals badly.

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

NATO is the last foothold of liberal democracy in the world.

it was without merits before putin made a war-loving imperialist religious superpower out of his country, whose only goal seems to be destroying the EU.

today either you support the NATO or you think defending democracy can be done with words and contracts alone.

-NATO defends militant Islam, not democracy.

You also seem to misunderstand Russian goals badly.

-Name me a time since 1992 that it actually did something while not defending militant Islam.

[Anti-Bothsidesism]

NATO is the last foothold of liberal democracy in the world.

it was without merits before putin made a war-loving imperialist religious superpower out of his country, whose only goal seems to be destroying the EU.

today either you support the NATO or you think defending democracy can be done with words and contracts alone.

-NATO defends militant Islam, not democracy.

You also seem to misunderstand Russian goals badly.

-Name me a time since 1992 that it actually did something while not defending militant Islam.

Name ME a time when NATO defended militant Islam.

[RINO Tom]

The first part is true, though. If you have a negative social (or economic) score, you cannot call yourself a conservative.

Assuming we'll hold economic scores to the same test?

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

NATO is the last foothold of liberal democracy in the world.

it was without merits before putin made a war-loving imperialist religious superpower out of his country, whose only goal seems to be destroying the EU.

today either you support the NATO or you think defending democracy can be done with words and contracts alone.

-NATO defends militant Islam, not democracy.

You also seem to misunderstand Russian goals badly.

-Name me a time since 1992 that it actually did something while not defending militant Islam.

Name ME a time when NATO defended militant Islam.

-2011

[100% pro-life no matter what]

The first part is true, though. If you have a negative social (or economic) score, you cannot call yourself a conservative.

Assuming we'll hold economic scores to the same test?

Absolutely, economic scores are held to the same test, but your economic score is just 0.13, meaning that answering one question slightly differently may have made you a double-negative.

[publicunofficial]

Let me solve this ongoing Eharding-RINO Tom debate on who the real conservatives are: neither of you are real conservatives.  In fact, no one with a negative social score should call themselves a conservative.  In fact, if any of the following are true, you are not a true conservative:

-I think free trade is a net negative for America
-I think abortion should be allowed in most or all cases
-I would rather have unrestricted privacy, even if it compromises public safety
-I believe that there are more than two genders
-I voted for Donald Trump in the primaries
-I did not vote for Donald Trump in the general election
-My social score is below a +5
-My economic score is below a +5

ER is legit one of my favorite posters here at this point. He's never mean, he just politely posts political stances so insane you can't even get mad at them.

[Santander]

The first part is true, though. If you have a negative social (or economic) score, you cannot call yourself a conservative.

Assuming we'll hold economic scores to the same test?

That is literally what I said.

[OneJ]

Also (This is more funny than anything to me)...

I mean, considering he quite literally trolls in every single one of his posts, I would think that people would stop responding to him.

-First people praise Santander over me because "he has a sense of humor", then condemn me for trolling. Well, guess what, folks, less than 5% of my posts can be described as trolling even under the most liberal definition of the term.

Under any serious examination, Dem support for NATO really is bizarre. Either they support militarism or they don't. Or they just do and don't do so opportunistically and only genuinely care about domestic issues.