The Klartext Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, and Deplorable Posts VI

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I can only hope the Trump tax cuts come soon enough.

Why are you always bragging about how much money you make, complaining about having to contribute to social programs, questioning the societal worth of people with lower incomes, and then pretending as though it's a surprise that people would not take it well?  For someone who complains about personal attacks, you sure seem to enjoy dishing them out.

There are plenty of wealthy people who support the Democrats and manage not to make a spectacle of themselves by insulting the less fortunate.  You don't get a pat on the back for voting for the Democrats.  We don't care if you vote for the Republicans.  It sounds like you want to, so.... do whatever you want.

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I can only hope the Trump tax cuts come soon enough.

Why are you always bragging about how much money you make, complaining about having to contribute to social programs, questioning the societal worth of people with lower incomes, and then pretending as though it's a surprise that people would not take it well?  For someone who complains about personal attacks, you sure seem to enjoy dishing them out.

There are plenty of wealthy people who support the Democrats and manage not to make a spectacle of themselves by insulting the less fortunate.  You don't get a pat on the back for voting for the Democrats.  We don't care if you vote for the Republicans.  It sounds like you want to, so.... do whatever you want.

Your post is belied by the facts.  I have made posts responsive to your litany of personal attacks.   And btw, saying I hope a tax cut comes soon enough (which most people support) is not a personal attack on you, get over yourself.

You failed at addressing even a single point regarding universal health care, and we still don't have a concrete explanation from you as to why you deserve medical care more than anyone else.  All you did was try to change the terms of the debate repeatedly, and you got called out on it.

I never claimed that your desire to increase the deficit was a personal attack.  I was more thinking of the numerous times you complained about the concept of your taxes going towards my health insurance because I beat you in an online argument.  A nasty sentiment, to be sure, but also very petty.  For the record, I have no problem with my taxation going towards services that you utilize.

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My point was that people should be responsible for their own health insurance, plain and simple.  If the argument is that humans should take care of other humans, then there is no end to that, because then I should be paying for the health insurance for people in Sub Saharan Africa, who are less fortunate than you btw.  My only exception would be people who are too sick or disabled to work a job and pay for their own health insurance.  

Do you honestly presume that countries in Africa or anywhere else look to the United States system of HMOs and insurance provided through your employer as a way of achieving better, let alone universal, health outcomes?  The US system is globally recognized as exactly how not to tackle the issue.

Health insurance is not health care, which is the crucial point here.

Under a system where access to health care is determined by ability to afford premiums, the exact point is that people who are too sick or disabled to work are losing out on access, or choosing between food and medicine due to the cost of their prescriptions - nor is that fair to people who do work, but simply don't earn enough to afford insurance and related costs.

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My point was that people should be responsible for their own health insurance, plain and simple.  If the argument is that humans should take care of other humans, then there is no end to that, because then I should be paying for the health insurance for people in Sub Saharan Africa, who are less fortunate than you btw.  My only exception would be people who are too sick or disabled to work a job and pay for their own health insurance. 

Do you honestly presume that countries in Africa or anywhere else look to the United States system of HMOs and insurance provided through your employer as a way of achieving better, let alone universal, health outcomes?  The US system is globally recognized as exactly how not to tackle the issue.

Health insurance is not health care, which is the crucial point here.

Under a system where access to health care is determined by ability to afford premiums, the exact point is that people who are too sick or disabled to work are losing out on access, or choosing between food and medicine due to the cost of their prescriptions - nor is that fair to people who do work, but simply don't earn enough to afford insurance and related costs.

Failed to understand my point.

No, I think your point is understood, it's just a bad point that has been badly made to boot.

Firstly, if we accept the premise that US universal health care is an implicit requirement to "insure" the rest of the world, why would USA taxpayers not need to finance the health care of people in countries like Canada and France?  That would be superfluous, right?

Secondly, if we accept the premise that universal health care is a global imperative for solely the United States to take on, why wouldn't that also apply to other social safety net programs which you claim to support?

I'm well aware that people in developing countries are less fortunate than I am.  Still not sure why that means you are more entitled to medical care than anyone else.

If you wanted to end the conversation, you could always stop replying.

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Your first good idea!

Another implicit acknowledgement that your "argument" has been debunked.  And now for a quick stroll down credibility lane...

This "debate" is not worth my time.

Anyways, I would like to end this "debate"

plus - I don't care to engage with you further.  Thanks.

It looks like your time is "worth" about as much as your word - nothing.

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So right, I just couldn't match wits with your superior intellect. 

This is more about empathy rather than intellect.

We're all still waiting on a reason why you deserve medical care more than anyone else.

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oh you guys!

Now would be the time for someone to thank us for directly posting into this thread...