Trump calling polls "Crooked." He is in "Poll Denial-ism."
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« on: October 12, 2016, 02:39:34 PM »
« edited: October 12, 2016, 02:58:03 PM by ProudModerate2 »

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2016, 02:53:50 PM »

That is one of the final stages of a losing campaign. It's right before actually losing the election.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2016, 02:54:30 PM »

Grow up, little Donny. You're a loser.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2016, 02:58:52 PM »

Christmas is coming 47 days early this year.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2016, 02:59:52 PM »

when you can no longer cite LA Times polls because they actually show you behind:



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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2016, 03:01:35 PM »

Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2016, 03:04:45 PM »

J. J.'s First Rule of Elections:  "If a candidate that say something like 'I don't look at the polls,' or 'The only polls that matter are the ones on Election Day,' that candidate will lose."
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2016, 03:14:21 PM »

God the guy never quits....we had Lyin Ted, Little Marco, Low energy Jeb, Crooked Hillary and now Crooked Polls....gonna miss the Donald; Election night sure is gonna be interesting; instead of Karl Rove having a meltdown, well the Donald will pull some sort of stunt; notice how everybody or everything is the problem; Trump is a genius in making news; but politics is way above his pay grade!
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2016, 04:15:59 PM »

During the primaries he used to quote polls every other day on twitter
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2016, 04:29:06 PM »

During the primaries he used to quote polls every other day on twitter

I think I remember at least one or two debates where he was asked a question along the lines of "Why is your plan on such-and-such issue better than your opponents' plans?" and his response would be something like "Well, I'm leading in all the polls, my plans must be good."
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2016, 04:34:20 PM »

  Not that I'm expecting this, but Trump could have some fun with British polling failures, like whatever happened to Prime Minister Neil Kinnock, and how are things going with Prime Minister Milliband and his Labor/SNP working majority government.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2016, 08:13:42 PM »

Election Night is going to be interesting.

When he loses bigly, I wonder if he'll even concede.
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2016, 08:19:47 PM »

Generally, when one side complains about the polls being "off", that side is not only losing, but probably set to underperform their polls.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2016, 08:20:44 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2016, 08:23:50 PM »

  Not that I'm expecting this, but Trump could have some fun with British polling failures, like whatever happened to Prime Minister Neil Kinnock, and how are things going with Prime Minister Milliband and his Labor/SNP working majority government.

you are hypothetically correct but besides the obvious point, that there aren't such complex average sites in the UK and so much high-quality samples to pull from.....the polls would need to be off in dozens of states at the same time again and again.

i mean you could think, each bombshell makes trump fans less likely to say they vote for him...but at some point, most people are going to change their mind about this.
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2017, 09:51:32 PM »

Where are these folks now?  I mean, they really, really got this wrong, did they not?
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2017, 09:58:08 PM »

Where are these folks now?  I mean, they really, really got this wrong, did they not?
Things happen. If you predicted something that was unlikely based on nothing but partisan bias, you don't get a victory lap.
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2017, 10:14:52 PM »

Where are these folks now?  I mean, they really, really got this wrong, did they not?
Things happen. If you predicted something that was unlikely based on nothing but partisan bias, you don't get a victory lap.
What about when you're dead wrong, over and over, based on personal negative bias?  Like the Trump Denial crowd, maybe?

When folks are as consistently wrong as the Trump Deniers have been over time, why should I take them seriously as prognosticators as to Trump's getting a second term?
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2017, 10:17:11 PM »

Where are these folks now?  I mean, they really, really got this wrong, did they not?
The national polls were more accurate than in 2012.
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2017, 10:18:27 PM »

Where are these folks now?  I mean, they really, really got this wrong, did they not?
The national polls were more accurate than in 2012.
The state polls were not. 
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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2017, 01:45:47 PM »

Where are these folks now?  I mean, they really, really got this wrong, did they not?
Things happen. If you predicted something that was unlikely based on nothing but partisan bias, you don't get a victory lap.

Except anti-Trumpers were wrong about Trump literally before Day 1.
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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2017, 06:58:55 PM »

Where are these folks now?  I mean, they really, really got this wrong, did they not?
The national polls were more accurate than in 2012.
The state polls were not. 
On average, they were.
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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2017, 07:04:16 PM »

Trump wasn't dismissing polls because of problems with their methodology. He was doing it because he didn't like what they showed. The fact that the polls happened to be wrong doesn't mean Trump was right to dismiss them for that reason.
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2017, 11:43:10 PM »

Clinton was winning by a landslide on October 12. The polls narrowed by a lot after October 28 and the Comey letter. If the election had been on October 27 the polls could have been off like they were on the day and Clinton would still have won comfortably. The polls changed, and that made a small poling error that wouldn't have mattered otherwise matter.
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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2017, 11:53:34 PM »

Clinton was winning by a landslide on October 12. The polls narrowed by a lot after October 28 and the Comey letter. If the election had been on October 27 the polls could have been off like they were on the day and Clinton would still have won comfortably. The polls changed, and that made a small poling error that wouldn't have mattered otherwise matter.
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