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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2016, 01:46:26 PM »

National PV margin makes up a healthy part of the (silly) image of mandate, so a little cash to bump those numbers even in lost places is never bad, and especially so in a year like this where the Ds can get a lot more out of Texas than usual.
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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2016, 02:10:49 PM »

Are there any semi-competitive seats in Texas? If yes then this would make sense.
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« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2016, 02:16:28 PM »

Are there any semi-competitive seats in Texas? If yes then this would make sense.

TX-23 I suppose.

There's no Gov or Senate race in Texas this year though.
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« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2016, 02:30:23 PM »

I hope the Democrats don't send the people who ran the 1972 McGovern campaign back to Texas.  They were the worst!
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« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2016, 02:31:44 PM »

I hope the Democrats don't send the people who ran the 1972 McGovern campaign back to Texas.  They were the worst!

It's probably fair to assume that they're retired or dead by this time. Smiley
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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2016, 03:00:14 PM »

I hope the Democrats don't send the people who ran the 1972 McGovern campaign back to Texas.  They were the worst!

Don't worry, they are busy with the transition.
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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2016, 03:19:19 PM »

Are there any semi-competitive seats in Texas? If yes then this would make sense.

I mean, I think if it's bad enough we could give old Pete Sessions (the next most competitive Texas seat) a Halloween scare.
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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2016, 03:58:06 PM »

I hope the Democrats don't send the people who ran the 1972 McGovern campaign back to Texas.  They were the worst!

It's probably fair to assume that they're retired or dead by this time. Smiley

Nah, I think they've moved on to bigger and better things.
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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2016, 04:16:04 PM »

Are there any semi-competitive seats in Texas? If yes then this would make sense.

I mean, I think if it's bad enough we could give old Pete Sessions (the next most competitive Texas seat) a Halloween scare.

Yeah, WTF. How can a district that's 36% Hispanic be safe R?
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« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2016, 05:29:04 PM »

Long called Texas as a much closer state than expected come November.

Although, many might perceive this ad buy as a waste of financial resources, I perceive it as part of a longer term strategy, where for the first time in decades, the Democratic Party is working to build enthusiasm and turnout in a state, where the so many Democrats don't bother to even turnout and vote, because "why bother".

I have long said, that it will require a significant investment in "time and resources" to turn Texas Purple, let alone "Blue" (Non-Atlas).

Although there is no significant gain that I can see when it comes to statewide down-ballot elections, when the Democratic Party completely cedes a state like Texas, especially when you have a Rep Pres candidate like Trump running top of ticket, this causes long-term harm in a state with one of lowest voter turnout rates in the nation, and which there is significant chance for Dems to expand when you combine voter registration and turnout, especially with a Republican candidate that has alienated so many core Republican Voters (Middle-Class Latinos, Suburban Republican Women, and College educated Anglos.

Nothing wrong with throwing some money back to the hood to spike turnout, and kick the Trump Republicans when they are down, and start to build a platform in order to be able to be more competitive come 2020.
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« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2016, 05:34:30 PM »

This makes more sense than trump going back into Virginia and spending there.
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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2016, 11:10:17 PM »

Here is the TV ad (not just digital) that is going to run in TX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j61Z-PQud9s

six of the 20 biggest cities in the USA are in TX. I think part of the reason the Clinton campaign is doing this is to run up their PV score. They want to get the national number over 50% for all that mandate-ness and there are literally millions of voters in TX that the Dems never even bother to try to get.
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« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2016, 08:23:31 AM »

Texas? My that's pretty audacious isn't it?
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« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2016, 09:08:18 AM »

Are there any semi-competitive seats in Texas? If yes then this would make sense.

TX-23 I suppose.

There's no Gov or Senate race in Texas this year though.


On the state level, they are some competitive Texas House/Senate seats that might get flipped from Republican to Democrat. Also locally here in Houston/Harris County, there is a competitive DA and Sheriff race.
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« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2016, 09:31:16 AM »

Polls show it’s likely worth it, and it really amazes me to force the orange-skinned clown to (deep) red-state defense. That this whole thing is even a question must be painful for the Trumpster. However, I think he will prevail in the end, and win TX by six, seven or eight points.
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« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2016, 09:50:41 AM »

I remember people being surprised Romney got 57% in 2012, so I think Trump will overperform in the end. I'm guessing either 52-44 or 53-44.
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« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2016, 09:51:10 AM »

Also lets not forget the Hispanic Texans. Whom I think are gonna vote in the same pattern like CA/NV Hispanics this cycle, and it might be a permanent thing if the Republican Party doesn't change its platform on immigration.

So I guess Texas will be the new Florida in the 2020's.
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« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2016, 11:42:13 AM »

So this means they think the race is over right?

I mean, there is literally no scenario whatsoever in any universe where Clinton wins thanks to winning Texas of all places.

Just for fun, it would probably look like this:



Clinton 304
Trump 234
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« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2016, 11:48:25 AM »

I remember people being surprised Romney got 57% in 2012, so I think Trump will overperform in the end. I'm guessing either 52-44 or 53-44.

Be that as it may, the 3 polls RCP has for 2012 TX are 55/40, 58/39, and 54/38. If anyone was surprised, that was their fault. The polls basically got it right.
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« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2016, 11:58:48 AM »

So this means they think the race is over right?

I mean, there is literally no scenario whatsoever in any universe where Clinton wins thanks to winning Texas of all places.

Just for fun, it would probably look like this:



Clinton 304
Trump 234


that's a pretty glorious RE-ALIGNMENT right there
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« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2016, 12:00:18 PM »

I remember people being surprised Romney got 57% in 2012, so I think Trump will overperform in the end. I'm guessing either 52-44 or 53-44.

Be that as it may, the 3 polls RCP has for 2012 TX are 55/40, 58/39, and 54/38. If anyone was surprised, that was their fault. The polls basically got it right.
You summed up that whole damn election in one sentence
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« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2016, 12:40:46 PM »

So this means they think the race is over right?

I mean, there is literally no scenario whatsoever in any universe where Clinton wins thanks to winning Texas of all places.

Just for fun, it would probably look like this:



Clinton 304
Trump 234


Take away Florida. Still got it Wink
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« Reply #47 on: October 18, 2016, 02:09:33 PM »

So this means they think the race is over right?

I mean, there is literally no scenario whatsoever in any universe where Clinton wins thanks to winning Texas of all places.

Just for fun, it would probably look like this:



Clinton 304
Trump 234


Take away Florida. Still got it Wink

True, but the forces leading to a Clinton victory in TX would also give her FL.  She still would need TX in this map.
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« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2016, 02:21:10 PM »

So this means they think the race is over right?

I mean, there is literally no scenario whatsoever in any universe where Clinton wins thanks to winning Texas of all places.

Just for fun, it would probably look like this:



Clinton 304
Trump 234


Add Georgia to the Democratic column.
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« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2016, 02:24:56 PM »

So this means they think the race is over right?

I mean, there is literally no scenario whatsoever in any universe where Clinton wins thanks to winning Texas of all places.

Just for fun, it would probably look like this:



Clinton 304
Trump 234


Take away Florida. Still got it Wink

True, but the forces leading to a Clinton victory in TX would also give her FL.  She still would need TX in this map.

Fair point. Very good!
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