Ex-GOP strategist Rick Wilson is trying to build new party out of #NeverTrump

[Young Conservative]

Actually, my APUSH teacher agrees that historically it is time for a new party to arise and predicted this months ago.  Every few decades a new party is supposed to replace an old and I believe it may be time....

"Every few decades?"  When's the last time a third party had any real shot going anywhere?  1912?

We are overdue actually. That was her point.

[Antonio the Sixth]

What is the party for fiscal hawks (you know, folks who don't want to screw future generations by maxing out government debt up to a point just short of economic implosion), who want effective and efficient governance, with a reasonable social safety net (even if that means the government will continue to take about the same share of the GDP as it does now), and a tolerance for diversity in this country?

The (like me lol) party?

[SteveRogers]

Actually, my APUSH teacher agrees that historically it is time for a new party to arise and predicted this months ago.  Every few decades a new party is supposed to replace an old and I believe it may be time....

"Every few decades?"  When's the last time a third party had any real shot going anywhere?  1912?

We are overdue actually. That was her point.

Okay... but the collapse of the Whigs and their replacement by the Republican Party happened in 1856, and nothing remotely similar has happened in the 160 years since. So where are you pulling "every few decades" from? Where is the historical evidence that that's how it is "supposed" to work?

[Torie]

What is the party for fiscal hawks (you know, folks who don't want to screw future generations by maxing out government debt up to a point just short of economic implosion), who want effective and efficient governance, with a reasonable social safety net (even if that means the government will continue to take about the same share of the GDP as it does now), and a tolerance for diversity in this country?

The (like me lol) party?

Exactly honey. You got it. Where is my niche these days?

[muon2]

What is the party for fiscal hawks (you know, folks who don't want to screw future generations by maxing out government debt up to a point just short of economic implosion), who want effective and efficient governance, with a reasonable social safety net (even if that means the government will continue to take about the same share of the GDP as it does now), and a tolerance for diversity in this country?

The (like me lol) party?

Exactly honey. You got it. Where is my niche these days?

Suburban Dems and Pubs don't seem so far apart and might be your niche. However, they get pulled by their respective cores in the city and rural areas. That leaves you with a balancing test as to who you want to boost more at the national and state levels.  They might even be different parties for those two levels based on the factional weights of the cores.

I saw the same lament from downstaters in IL in the 1990's. They had no niche back then in the partisan divide between the city and suburbs. Now they have a solid home and the suburbanites are caught in the middle.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Actually, my APUSH teacher agrees that historically it is time for a new party to arise and predicted this months ago.  Every few decades a new party is supposed to replace an old and I believe it may be time....

"Every few decades?"  When's the last time a third party had any real shot going anywhere?  1912?

We are overdue actually. That was her point.

Nah, I think the party system is set in stone. Perhaps in a thousand years, the GOP will embrace transhumanist socialism/civil rights for AI and the Democrats will campaign on Paulism/Trumpism perhaps, but both parties will still be here even in name.

[Badger]

Actually, my APUSH teacher agrees that historically it is time for a new party to arise and predicted this months ago.  Every few decades a new party is supposed to replace an old and I believe it may be time....

"Every few decades?"  When's the last time a third party had any real shot going anywhere?  1912?

We are overdue actually. That was her point.

Nah, I think the party system is set in stone. Perhaps in a thousand years, the GOP will embrace transhumanist socialism/civil rights for AI and the Democrats will campaign on Paulism/Trumpism perhaps, but both parties will still be here even in name.

As soon as most self-professed "deficit hawks" acknowledge to themselves that a dollar of tax cuts affects the deficit the same as a dollar in increased government spending, as change their policies accordingly, it might happen.

[hopper]

I think you misunderstand me: I'm simply stating that as one of the few (only?) differences between the 2012 and 2016 GOP electorate, and saying that because I believe a lot of those non-regular voters were turning out specifically for Donald J. Trump, they're not as likely to return.  I'm not saying that's why he won, and in fact my main point is that there were several reasons he won (a huge reason being media attention), none of which was this unanimous and enthusiastic endorsement of all of his policy positions by the GOP electorate.

Well having his own show "The Apprentice" did help him a lot in getting the media attention that he did get.