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« on: October 19, 2016, 03:22:15 PM »

With Portman running far ahead of Trump in Ohio, I think his stock will be helped a fair amount if he decides to run in 2020. Also, Pence is almost certainly in a stronger position. Anyone else come to mind?
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2016, 03:24:57 PM »

You mean besides Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart?
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2016, 04:50:13 PM »

John Kasich
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2016, 05:12:03 PM »

John Kasich, Rand Paul, Mia Love, and maybe Jon Huntsman.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2016, 11:49:33 AM »

Definitely not Reince Priebus, that's for sure.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2016, 01:19:29 PM »

Does it matter? The party is sick and it needs to beat the illness known as the alt-right out of it before it can move forward.
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2016, 04:40:08 PM »

Definitely not Reince Priebus, that's for sure.

Reince Priebus should be fired for his total incompetence
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2016, 05:01:25 PM »

Definitely not Reince Priebus, that's for sure.

Reince Priebus should be fired for his total incompetence

In all fairness, he didn't crater his party at the state and local level like DWS.
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2016, 05:40:40 PM »

I don't understand why so many people think Kasich has a good shot in 2020. He finished in de facto fourth place in the primaries, winning only his home state. Do people think that the Republican Party is going to a) suddenly embrace his brand of relatively moderate politics and b)choose him over someone else from the "establishment lane" like Rubio?
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2016, 10:01:07 PM »

I don't understand why so many people think Kasich has a good shot in 2020. He finished in de facto fourth place in the primaries, winning only his home state. Do people think that the Republican Party is going to a) suddenly embrace his brand of relatively moderate politics and b)choose him over someone else from the "establishment lane" like Rubio?

If he had jeb's  warchest he would have become the 45th president of the United States
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2016, 11:18:08 PM »

I don't understand why so many people think Kasich has a good shot in 2020. He finished in de facto fourth place in the primaries, winning only his home state. Do people think that the Republican Party is going to a) suddenly embrace his brand of relatively moderate politics and b)choose him over someone else from the "establishment lane" like Rubio?

If he had jeb's  warchest he would have become the 45th president of the United States

You can't be serious. Kasich never had any chance of winning the primary. He literally only won one state and it was entirely due to the favorite son effect. If he runs in 2020, he has a higher chance of not even making the debate stage than actually winning the nomination.

If he had 100 million dollars like Jeb his name would have been out a lot more in the news cycle due to being the main establishment candiate , and would instantly give him traction in most states he wasn't heard of in
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2016, 01:33:52 AM »

Could've been Cruz if he hadn't ever endorsed at all.
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2016, 07:29:20 AM »

John Kasich.
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2016, 01:10:52 PM »

Could've been Cruz if he hadn't ever endorsed at all.

Or if he had just endorsed Trump at the convention
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2016, 01:46:33 PM »

Definitely not Reince Priebus, that's for sure.

Reince Priebus should be fired for his total incompetence
I don't think Reince has been incompetent. He definitely stepped up the GOP's GOTV effort after 2012. He inherited a bad fiscal mess at the RNC after Michael Steele's tenure which he has fixed.
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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2016, 01:50:29 PM »

Definitely not Reince Priebus, that's for sure.

Reince Priebus should be fired for his total incompetence

In all fairness, he didn't crater his party at the state and local level like DWS.
There hasn't been a good DNC chair since Howard Dean. Tim Kaine wasn't that good of a messenger either before DWS.
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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2016, 01:53:40 PM »

I don't understand why so many people think Kasich has a good shot in 2020. He finished in de facto fourth place in the primaries, winning only his home state. Do people think that the Republican Party is going to a) suddenly embrace his brand of relatively moderate politics and b)choose him over someone else from the "establishment lane" like Rubio?

If he had jeb's  warchest he would have become the 45th president of the United States

You can't be serious. Kasich never had any chance of winning the primary. He literally only won one state and it was entirely due to the favorite son effect. If he runs in 2020, he has a higher chance of not even making the debate stage than actually winning the nomination.

If he had 100 million dollars like Jeb his name would have been out a lot more in the news cycle due to being the main establishment candiate , and would instantly give him traction in most states he wasn't heard of in
Yeah the 100 million dollars didn't help Jeb though in the Presidential Primary. With that said I don't think Republicans will be ready for a candidate like Kasich until they lose the Presidency 1-2 more times.
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2016, 02:24:27 PM »

I don't understand why so many people think Kasich has a good shot in 2020. He finished in de facto fourth place in the primaries, winning only his home state. Do people think that the Republican Party is going to a) suddenly embrace his brand of relatively moderate politics and b)choose him over someone else from the "establishment lane" like Rubio?

If he had jeb's  warchest he would have become the 45th president of the United States

You can't be serious. Kasich never had any chance of winning the primary. He literally only won one state and it was entirely due to the favorite son effect. If he runs in 2020, he has a higher chance of not even making the debate stage than actually winning the nomination.

If he had 100 million dollars like Jeb his name would have been out a lot more in the news cycle due to being the main establishment candiate , and would instantly give him traction in most states he wasn't heard of in
Yeah the 100 million dollars didn't help Jeb though in the Presidential Primary. With that said I don't think Republicans will be ready for a candidate like Kasich until they lose the Presidency 1-2 more times.

It didnt help him because he had the last name Bush, if he didnt have the last name Bush he would have won the primary
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2016, 02:28:54 PM »

Definitely not Reince Priebus, that's for sure.

Reince Priebus should be fired for his total incompetence

In all fairness, he didn't crater his party at the state and local level like DWS.

If I was reince prebus when I saw trump rising I would have added super delegates like the dems have  and make the entire primary pure proportional which would have made trump only get 33% of the delegates in states like south carolina , and still require a rule that you have to win 50% of the delegates to win the nomination .
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2016, 03:20:55 PM »

I guess if any of the Republican incumbents in tossup races win (McCrory, Burr, Ayotte) they could be strong contenders for the future.
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2016, 03:28:56 PM »

Definitely not Reince Priebus, that's for sure.

Reince Priebus should be fired for his total incompetence

In all fairness, he didn't crater his party at the state and local level like DWS.

If I was reince prebus when I saw trump rising I would have added super delegates like the dems have  and make the entire primary pure proportional which would have made trump only get 33% of the delegates in states like south carolina , and still require a rule that you have to win 50% of the delegates to win the nomination .
No it would have pissed off GOP voters more if they added a Superdelegate System.
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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2016, 03:30:58 PM »

I don't understand why so many people think Kasich has a good shot in 2020. He finished in de facto fourth place in the primaries, winning only his home state. Do people think that the Republican Party is going to a) suddenly embrace his brand of relatively moderate politics and b)choose him over someone else from the "establishment lane" like Rubio?

If he had jeb's  warchest he would have become the 45th president of the United States

You can't be serious. Kasich never had any chance of winning the primary. He literally only won one state and it was entirely due to the favorite son effect. If he runs in 2020, he has a higher chance of not even making the debate stage than actually winning the nomination.

If he had 100 million dollars like Jeb his name would have been out a lot more in the news cycle due to being the main establishment candiate , and would instantly give him traction in most states he wasn't heard of in
Yeah the 100 million dollars didn't help Jeb though in the Presidential Primary. With that said I don't think Republicans will be ready for a candidate like Kasich until they lose the Presidency 1-2 more times.

It didnt help him because he had the last name Bush, if he didnt have the last name Bush he would have won the primary
No I don't think he lost because his last name was Bush. He just wasn't the candidate that GOP voters were looking for. They wanted a populist like Trump.
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2016, 10:29:43 AM »
« Edited: October 23, 2016, 10:34:35 AM by Mister Mets »

I agree on Rob Portman. A strong reelection against a former Governor in a Democratic wave year will help.

Ben Sasse got a lot of attention for consistent principled opposition to Trump.

I'll also make an argument for Mike Pence, mainly due to where he was in 2015.

John Neely Kennedy will probably the next Senator from Louisiana, a promotion from his current position as State Treasurer.

With others, it'll depend on the outcomes of statewide offices. Anyone who ends up Governor or Senator is in a better place at the end of the year than the beginning.
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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2016, 03:45:58 PM »
« Edited: October 23, 2016, 03:47:41 PM by Enduro »

I think the Libertarian Party will be after we get 5% in 2016.

Edit: didn't see the first word of the topic. I think Mike Pence and Joni Ernst would be in the best position.
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2016, 12:03:44 AM »

Ben Sasse got a lot of attention for consistent principled opposition to Trump.

Yeah, I think Sasse definitely joined the 2020 conversation this year
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