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Question: Which position is closest to your idea of what sort of arms ordinary citizens should be allowed to possess
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Anyone who can afford Thermonuclear ICBMs should be allowed to have them
 
#2
Citizens should be allowed conventional weapons only
 
#3
Only projectile or handheld weapons (Artillery OK, Bombers and battleships - no)
 
#4
Only handheld weapons (no artilery.  RPG's ok if you can carry them)
 
#5
Any sort of rifle, shotgun, handgun, or knife (no rocket launchers)
 
#6
Only weapons which fire one shot per trigger pull (or blades)
 
#7
Only hunting rifles and some handguns subject to quality restrictions
 
#8
Only weapons which were available in the late 18th century (blunderbusses)
 
#9
No guns.  Knives under 6 inches only.
 
#10
No sharp knives at all. (you want steak, chew it apart)
 
#11
No butter knives either.
 
#12
forget silverware.  Everyone gets a straightjacket anyway.
 
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Citizen James
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« on: July 04, 2005, 03:28:20 PM »

I've included extreme positions for those who have a major libertarian/authoritarian bent.
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2005, 03:31:40 PM »

I've included extreme positions for those who have a major libertarian/authoritarian bent.

First one, though it contains the falacy that there is a market for nuclear weapons in the absense of government. If there are in fact governments, then I'd have to say option 2.
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2005, 04:14:34 PM »

option nine of course. Weapons should only be in the posession of the police, the military and olympic shooting teams.
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2005, 04:18:55 PM »

option nine of course. Weapons should only be in the posession of the police, the military and olympic shooting teams.

How are people suposed to aquire enough markmenship to get into the olympics, if they can only have acess to the fireamrs after they are qualified for the olympics?
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2005, 04:22:08 PM »

option nine of course. Weapons should only be in the posession of the police, the military and olympic shooting teams.

How are people suposed to aquire enough markmenship to get into the olympics, if they can only have acess to the fireamrs after they are qualified for the olympics?

Well, I meant the sport of shooting in general, as they have in the olympics.
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2005, 04:31:52 PM »

Option 5
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2005, 05:07:30 PM »

Option Five.
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2005, 05:39:33 PM »

Option 5...from the top-down. 
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2005, 06:57:18 PM »

5 sounds good to me.

First one, though it contains the falacy that there is a market for nuclear weapons in the absense of government. If there are in fact governments, then I'd have to say option 2.

Why couldn't there be one?  I would imagine that if there was some slightly mentally unstable rich guy who got annoyed to no end by the children in a neighborhood, he could shell out some pocket change for a nuclear bomb, move far away from the neighborhood, and then obliterate the whole neighborhood with it to get back at the people who had tormented him.

I really cannot see how you could possibly feel that citizens owning nuclear weapons could benefit society.
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2005, 07:10:04 PM »

OPTION ONE, LOL. Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2005, 07:38:48 PM »

option 1-4 anywhere, just to piss off the anti-gun people.

Provincial Rights, how am I supposed to shoot border jumping Canucks down if I don't have a gun? Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2005, 07:47:39 PM »

Option 6. Definitely no more than option 5.
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2005, 08:42:42 PM »


Somewhere between 7 and 8.
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2005, 08:56:09 PM »

Option 4.
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2005, 09:10:49 PM »

Provincial Rights, how am I supposed to shoot border jumping Canucks down if I don't have a gun? Tongue

Place pictures of George Bush along the border with the caption "Yes, he's still President here" - problem solved.
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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2005, 10:30:39 PM »

No guns, except hunting rifles, and those strictly licensed.  Just emulate Europe, as in so many things.
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2005, 10:34:16 PM »

Provincial Rights, how am I supposed to shoot border jumping Canucks down if I don't have a gun? Tongue

Place pictures of George Bush along the border with the caption "Yes, he's still President here" - problem solved.

See?  See!?  You don't need guns! Cheesy
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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2005, 11:31:21 PM »

Option 4
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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2005, 11:47:47 PM »

option 1-4 anywhere, just to piss off the anti-gun people.

Provincial Rights, how am I supposed to shoot border jumping Canucks down if I don't have a gun? Tongue

Does such a thing exist?
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2005, 12:39:17 AM »

option 1-4 anywhere, just to piss off the anti-gun people.

Provincial Rights, how am I supposed to shoot border jumping Canucks down if I don't have a gun? Tongue

Does such a thing exist?

No, such things do not exist, prude. Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2005, 12:53:30 AM »

option 1-4 anywhere, just to piss off the anti-gun people.

Provincial Rights, how am I supposed to shoot border jumping Canucks down if I don't have a gun? Tongue

Does such a thing exist?

No, such things do not exist, prude. Cheesy

Didn't think so. Smiley See, you dont need a gun to kill non existant illegal Canadian aliens.
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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2005, 04:09:50 AM »
« Edited: July 05, 2005, 04:12:17 AM by Bono »

5 sounds good to me.

First one, though it contains the falacy that there is a market for nuclear weapons in the absense of government. If there are in fact governments, then I'd have to say option 2.

Why couldn't there be one?  I would imagine that if there was some slightly mentally unstable rich guy who got annoyed to no end by the children in a neighborhood, he could shell out some pocket change for a nuclear bomb, move far away from the neighborhood, and then obliterate the whole neighborhood with it to get back at the people who had tormented him.

I really cannot see how you could possibly feel that citizens owning nuclear weapons could benefit society.

A nuclear bomb is very expensive to make, and it wouldn't be profitable, as production of it to be actually profitable you'd need the economies of scale provided by massive government orders.
If the only market atomic bonb producers would be the ocasional crazy millionaire once a year, which is praxeologically insignificant, I doubt they could survive.
Aditionaly, the rich guy would be liable for the damage he did, which I don't think he'd be interested in.
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2005, 04:24:09 AM »

Option 3.
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2005, 06:56:29 AM »

5 sounds good to me.

First one, though it contains the falacy that there is a market for nuclear weapons in the absense of government. If there are in fact governments, then I'd have to say option 2.

Why couldn't there be one?  I would imagine that if there was some slightly mentally unstable rich guy who got annoyed to no end by the children in a neighborhood, he could shell out some pocket change for a nuclear bomb, move far away from the neighborhood, and then obliterate the whole neighborhood with it to get back at the people who had tormented him.
The fewer people like that, the higher the price. In the absence of governments, this guy would have had to pay the entire development cost of nukes, since nukes wouldn't have been invented without (competing) government in the first place.
Like 99% of imaginable products, nukes would not exist in a free market. Nor would the internet. Nor would telephones.
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2005, 07:28:05 AM »

Option 7

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