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HillOfANight
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« on: October 20, 2016, 11:01:24 AM »
« edited: October 20, 2016, 11:20:15 AM by HillOfANight »

https://twitter.com/davidpaleologos/status/789133508992200705
http://www.suffolk.edu/academics/10740.php

Clinton 45 (39)
Trump 45 (42)
Johnson 2
Stein 1

White
Clinton 36
TRUMP 52

Black
Clinton 80
Trump 13
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2016, 11:03:54 AM »

Gives me a faint of hope.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2016, 11:04:23 AM »

Yup, Clinton gonna win this bad boy.  If Trump isn't winning Ohio decisively then he's not winning.  
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2016, 11:05:49 AM »

Yup, Clinton gonna win this bad boy.  If Trump isn't winning Ohio decisively then he's not winning. 

The polling average was dead on in 2012.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2016, 11:20:43 AM »

I suspect that Trump will win Ohio (and any state) if polling is tied or within 1/2 points in the state going into the election.  Practically every poll in this so far has had huge quantities of people in the "undecided" and "someone else" categories, I would bet that many of them (not all) are embarrassed Trump leaners.

Clinton's lead is pretty secure and she should win, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump outperforms his polling by 1-2+ points across the board.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2016, 11:22:46 AM »

Clinton's lead is pretty secure and she should win, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump outperforms his polling by 1-2+ points across the board.

Which is something he never did in the primaries.
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2016, 11:23:32 AM »

I suspect that Trump will win Ohio (and any state) if polling is tied or within 1/2 points in the state going into the election.  Practically every poll in this so far has had huge quantities of people in the "undecided" and "someone else" categories, I would bet that many of them (not all) are embarrassed Trump leaners.

Clinton's lead is pretty secure and she should win, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump outperforms his polling by 1-2+ points across the board.

Undecideds broke away from Trump in almost every primary before New York.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2016, 11:23:37 AM »

I suspect that Trump will win Ohio (and any state) if polling is tied or within 1/2 points in the state going into the election.  Practically every poll in this so far has had huge quantities of people in the "undecided" and "someone else" categories, I would bet that many of them (not all) are embarrassed Trump leaners.

Clinton's lead is pretty secure and she should win, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump outperforms his polling by 1-2+ points across the board.
You are forgetting about ground game.  In swing states Clinton has very extensive ground game while Trump has basically none.
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2016, 11:26:57 AM »

I suspect that Trump will win Ohio (and any state) if polling is tied or within 1/2 points in the state going into the election.  Practically every poll in this so far has had huge quantities of people in the "undecided" and "someone else" categories, I would bet that many of them (not all) are embarrassed Trump leaners.

Clinton's lead is pretty secure and she should win, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump outperforms his polling by 1-2+ points across the board.


Undecideds broke away from Trump in almost every primary before New York.

I think these are two different classes of voters and where they overlap they are facing a different choice.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2016, 11:28:38 AM »

I suspect that Trump will win Ohio (and any state) if polling is tied or within 1/2 points in the state going into the election.  Practically every poll in this so far has had huge quantities of people in the "undecided" and "someone else" categories, I would bet that many of them (not all) are embarrassed Trump leaners.

Clinton's lead is pretty secure and she should win, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump outperforms his polling by 1-2+ points across the board.


Undecideds broke away from Trump in almost every primary before New York.

I think these are two different classes of voters and where they overlap they are facing a different choice.

Nationally you are correct, but I have read the best ground game in OH is Portman's and that should help Trump.
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2016, 11:40:27 AM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/jaxalemany/status/787728080857133056

He's subliminally supporting Hillary Grin



http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-13/how-republican-rob-portman-may-derail-the-trump-train-in-ohio

Also, an article recently about him turning out moderate voters that may lean Clinton.
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2016, 11:43:56 AM »

Suffolk leans R, no?
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2016, 11:44:40 AM »


They were a high-quality pollster for a while, but infamously overestimated Romney across the board in 2012. Make of that what you will.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2016, 11:44:53 AM »

Though it's looking like Hillary will (easily) win the election, Ohio is going to be very close.
OH can be won by either candidate.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2016, 11:55:32 AM »


Suffolk pulled out of Virginia and Florida in 2012 because they believed them to be safe Romney states.
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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2016, 01:09:38 PM »

I'm going to be pretty bummed out election night if Clinton blows out Trump among almost all the swing states and even picks off something like Arizona, while Ohio sticks out like a sore thumb, inexplicably, in Trump's favor.
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