Does Wikileaks have anything more on DNC/HRC/etc megethread

[ApatheticAustrian]

at this point they are nothing different than a pro-trump oppo-research-office.

how well does that sit with their own fans i wonder?

[ApatheticAustrian]

AFAIK national comittee chairs need to be loathsome....i see a pattern with steele, DWS, brazile and ofc priebus.

[ApatheticAustrian]

just my thoughts, fusionmunster.

this is mostly about bullying and insulting...they have nothing newsworthy besides trying to create anger and injured feelings.

childish games.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Nothing Brazile does would surprise me.  Remember Dukakis fired her in 88 for peddling stories about a Bush affair.  She's rotten to the  core.

may i remind you that at that time, atwater was at large and there isn't a big difference to rove.

hard-ball-players like that are quite bipartisan.

[ApatheticAustrian]

besides the fact that they try to influence an election during its final days and seemingly want to let this go on until november 8th...(otherwise they would have dropped all podesta files at once)

...... this is also much less "interesting" in most ways than their usual bombshells like diplomatic judgements or military secrets ....

this is just....political gossip and intra-party-bickering, only useable for republican operatives.

[ApatheticAustrian]

They just posted a link to an article on their twitter about how Clinton surrogates can't back up the fabrication claims. Is that the surprise?
 

they are going to gave some kind of "proof" their content is real.

(or at least some parts, which is the common position atm)

[ApatheticAustrian]

How though? Outside of giving us access to John Podesta's email address, I cant think of any type of proof.

maybe some great quotes from both brazile and kaine..... won't prove anything anyway.

[ApatheticAustrian]

This is getting too meta for anyone other than political reporters to give a crap.

Yep, you're right.

I'm more interested to see the jokes Clinton and Trump will give tonight in the Al Smith dinner.

theoretically trump is a much better comedian (both in terms of skill and unwanted humour) but he hates scripted stuff and i think he won't feel like laughting atm.

[ApatheticAustrian]

what a coincidence that O'Keefe also suddenly talks a lot about Brazile. (seemingly cause the names unearthed by O'Keefe also appear in Wikileaks emails)

he claims to publish audio tape about meetings with the white house next week.....guess obama himself is going to order the voter fraud squad how to do their job!!!!11111!1!!!

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https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/789221816506064896?lang=de

[ApatheticAustrian]

Yeah, that First Amendment is horrible.  We should abolish it!  Darn journalists!

o'keefe is not a journalist, he is an activist.

and ofc he walks a subtle line regarding breaking the law...but this is not for me to decide.

[ApatheticAustrian]

That he has a particular point of view in his pieces is irrelevant. 

no, it is not.

if you are a columnist or an editorializer, it's okay...and even good to show where you are coming from.

he is more like michael moore or dinesh d'souza..... creating movies through investigative techniques and then using the material in an enteraining way, fitting your narrative, without transparency or a chance for a re-check.

it's political activism and it's all right...we just shouldn't swallow it without critical questions.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Exposing the unwanted truth lurking behind the scenes is the epitome of investigative journalism.  And both are protected by the First Amendment.

ofc only if you don't break federal/state laws of any kind.

there are some additional layers of freedom for journalists but O'Keefe usually oversteps all such boundaries.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Michael Moore and Dinesh D'Souza are as much journalists under the First Amendment as O'Keefe and others. 

if that's your point of view then i won't disagree. seems inclusive enough.

[ApatheticAustrian]

in fact you - more or less - can "break" some laws if you are a journalist, if it's out of "public interest" and "for the greater good", but those standards got even more narrow since watergate and it clearly weren't good enough for snowden, not even speaking of partisan before-election interference like O'Keefe's line of work.

[ApatheticAustrian]

it's the same as if you are running for mayor in a small village and some people broke into your house and stole your school diaries.

every day between then and the election day, some not very harming and surely not criminal but embrarassing details about your teenagehood is going to be published all over your village, going to make you look - on the long run - like a "loser"/weirdo, cause everybody is able to compare your own private thoughts with the shop-window lies of everyone else.

leaking hillary's wall street speeches is at least partially comparable to the "47%"-speech.

leaking bickering, arguing and complaining each day for weeks is not in any way useful to anyone....and just a desperate attack to change this election with gossip.

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https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789296990127427588

How can any upstanding republican or even american live with those notions? coming directly out of Russia or Trump's campaign office i guess.

this is their new low.....

[ApatheticAustrian]

i think a tweet like that could be used by a clever campaign to crush WIKILEAKS in terms of PR and make republicans disavow them too....but i am not sure, team hillary cares enough for them.

[ApatheticAustrian]

crazy theory:

assange wanted to get someone different in the white house, who would ...maybe...be grateful to WL and stop the possible warrant.

#backlash

[ApatheticAustrian]

Interesting, they deleted the tweet.

they did not, even while some people seem to think they did.
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789296990127427588

if they do....

[ApatheticAustrian]

 Dating site "Todd & Clare" whose owners accused Assange of pedophilia and taking money from russia....

http://emptylighthouse.com/what-todd-clare-did-larry-summers-use-it-attack-wikileaks-julian-assange-203501400

.... got hacked....and its data is threatened.

wikileaks is celebrating:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789308751731888129

[ApatheticAustrian]

teenagers taking a victory lap:

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https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789314457260392448

[ApatheticAustrian]

out of principle that he would try to interfere with the election.

[ApatheticAustrian]

in other news..glenn beck thinks stealing/reading the podesta-mails is morally wrong.

http://www.glennbeck.com/2016/10/20/is-it-morally-ethical-to-read-illegally-obtained-private-emails/?platform=hootsuite

[ApatheticAustrian]

if they have got some REAAAAAAAALLY damning stuff left, is there any practical notion why they should have waited until now?

even O'Keefe began his leaks prior to the third debate (possible too late).....i am not sure, new semi-scandals are able to even reach a big enough slice of non-partisan america until the election day now.

[ApatheticAustrian]

We has lost the battle but we has not lost the war

in fact i hope that the day after the election the impeachment hearings are going to begin (unlikely that the republicans would lose the house)

great entertainment and i want to see ryan try to make kaine, arguable a much easier to like politican, president.